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PS3 compatible video creation thread (tsMuxeR etc.).
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solidus3
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7. May 2008 @ 01:20 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Is it a slight delay, or is it way off? Is it a gradual delay getting worse towards the end, or does it have the same out of sync time throughout the movie?
You can add a delay or a negative delay to the srt subs with tsMuxeR.
shit, haha, you're right
how can i check the video without actually burning it on dvd?
and is it possible to use .m2ts as a demuxed video with .srt subtitles streamed to ps3, which will SHOW the subtitles?
have you guys gotten that work?
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7. May 2008 @ 03:03 |
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Originally posted by solidus3: Originally posted by odin24:
Is it a slight delay, or is it way off? Is it a gradual delay getting worse towards the end, or does it have the same out of sync time throughout the movie?
You can add a delay or a negative delay to the srt subs with tsMuxeR.
shit, haha, you're right
how can i check the video without actually burning it on dvd?
and is it possible to use .m2ts as a demuxed video with .srt subtitles streamed to ps3, which will SHOW the subtitles?
have you guys gotten that work?
Unfortunately subs are not compatible in the m2ts format alone, it must be structured in the Blu-Ray format.
Your best bet would be to get a DVD-RW and have at it with trial and error. If that's not feasable I suggest; Make your m2ts with just video and audio and place it in the same folder with your srt sub file and make sure they have the same name (i.e. 123.m2ts and 123.srt). Then open the movie with Nero Showtime, the subs should play automatically with the video, if not right click on the playing movie and locate the options for subtitles and enable them. This should give you a good idea how off they are.
There might be an easier way but that is the way I have done it.
Hope this help, Good luck. Lemme know how you do.
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solidus3
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7. May 2008 @ 03:45 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Unfortunately subs are not compatible in the m2ts format alone, it must be structured in the Blu-Ray format.
Your best bet would be to get a DVD-RW and have at it with trial and error. If that's not feasable I suggest; Make your m2ts with just video and audio and place it in the same folder with your srt sub file and make sure they have the same name (i.e. 123.m2ts and 123.srt). Then open the movie with Nero Showtime, the subs should play automatically with the video, if not right click on the playing movie and locate the options for subtitles and enable them. This should give you a good idea how off they are.
There might be an easier way but that is the way I have done it.
Hope this help, Good luck. Lemme know how you do.
i feel like such a jackass, i finally got it working
this is what i was doing wrong:
using avi mux app to split the mkv into 2 manageable portions, so i could burn on 2 separate dvds....everything worked fine, including the subtitles, up until using tsmuxer to create a blu ray dvd....for some reason, the subtitled ended up 3 minutes behind....yikes
this is what i did to fix this:
i placed the original 5gb file into tsmuxer and muxed it into m2ts, splitting them at 3gb....then i got each file and used tsmuxer again to create 2 blu ray dvds....popped the newly burned files onto my ps3 and the subtitles are in synch with video and audio
thank goodness for tsmuxer...and to sum it up, SRT SUBTITLES WORK!!!!
so i guess a relative question is
is there a way besides megui to shorten the size of the video file to fit the demuxed files onto a dvd5?
damn megui keeps crashign wheniver i try to load an avs script
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7. May 2008 @ 04:28 |
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Originally posted by solidus3: Originally posted by odin24:
Unfortunately subs are not compatible in the m2ts format alone, it must be structured in the Blu-Ray format.
Your best bet would be to get a DVD-RW and have at it with trial and error. If that's not feasable I suggest; Make your m2ts with just video and audio and place it in the same folder with your srt sub file and make sure they have the same name (i.e. 123.m2ts and 123.srt). Then open the movie with Nero Showtime, the subs should play automatically with the video, if not right click on the playing movie and locate the options for subtitles and enable them. This should give you a good idea how off they are.
There might be an easier way but that is the way I have done it.
Hope this help, Good luck. Lemme know how you do.
i feel like such a jackass, i finally got it working
this is what i was doing wrong:
using avi mux app to split the mkv into 2 manageable portions, so i could burn on 2 separate dvds....everything worked fine, including the subtitles, up until using tsmuxer to create a blu ray dvd....for some reason, the subtitled ended up 3 minutes behind....yikes
this is what i did to fix this:
i placed the original 5gb file into tsmuxer and muxed it into m2ts, splitting them at 3gb....then i got each file and used tsmuxer again to create 2 blu ray dvds....popped the newly burned files onto my ps3 and the subtitles are in synch with video and audio
thank goodness for tsmuxer...and to sum it up, SRT SUBTITLES WORK!!!!
so i guess a relative question is
is there a way besides megui to shorten the size of the video file to fit the demuxed files onto a dvd5?
damn megui keeps crashign wheniver i try to load an avs script
Nero Recode will do the trick, not as precise as MeGUI though. Did you try uninstall/reinstalling MeGUI?
Could it be the scripts you are trying to load? Are you using MeGUI's script creator or are you using notepad?
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moddep
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7. May 2008 @ 04:32 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Yes, there is. Create a folder on your external media (USB drive, external HDD etc.) named "AVCHD". Then put the "BDMV" and "CERTIFICATE" folders in there and all should be good! :-)
Also, you will need to name all files to the 8.3 format. There is a tool that can automate this for you.
Here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?ywt2wysnzb1
Just place that application in your AVCHD folder and run it from there.
Thanks for the advice Ryu, I will try that.
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solidus3
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7. May 2008 @ 04:33 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Nero Recode will do the trick, not as precise as MeGUI though. Did you try uninstall/reinstalling MeGUI?
Could it be the scripts you are trying to load? Are you using MeGUI's script creator or are you using notepad?
yeah, uninstalled and resintalled megui
tried avisynth 2.5.7 and 2.5.8 beta, neither work
tried both notepad file and megui's avisynth creator tool
i guess i'll try nero recode
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mixja666
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7. May 2008 @ 06:43 |
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Originally posted by solidus3:
can you tell me what your outputting?
i'm guessing you're talking about
720p video
avchd
srt subtitles
without having to edit the srt subtitles at all?
i've tried this already but the tsmuxer outputs the srt subtitles with a delay in their display
originally the subtitles are synchronized, but after using tsmuxer, the new video has delayed subtitles
dunno what gives or what to do
Output 1:
1080p H.264/AVC 23.976fps
DTS Audio
SRT Subtitles
Output 2:
720p H.264/AVC 23.976fps
AC3 Audio
SRT Subtitles
Both in AVCHD to DVD9...
Like the above reply, check if the subtitles are out of sync by the same delay at the end of the movie, if so, you can fix it by adding a delay...
If they gradually go out of sync and get worse and worse, definitely sounds like a frame rate issue, although I'd assume TsMuxer would just use whatever framerate it detects as the SRT files I've seen don't specify framerate.
Did you have to remove pulldown or anything like that for your video stream, and what is your video frame rate? I wonder, if your framerate is not 23.976, this might the issue, as TsMuxer perhaps may only support 23.976fps for Bluray subtitles...
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mixja666
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7. May 2008 @ 07:36 |
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Originally posted by rnguyen: Hey that was great information! Thanks for answering all of those questions, but now I have a few new ones:
1. Does the software convert the VC-1 and mpeg2 files sometimes found on BD to the compatible m2ts?
2. Don't the big file sizes make streaming difficult/frustrating? And won't you lose more quality burning it onto a DVD9? I haven't actually ripped a BD yet, so I don't know the typical file sizes of the movies on there. Are they usually under 8.5gb?
3. I like subtitles and I've skimmed through and noticed that a few people are having issues with it. If I ripped a BD movie and it was in the proper m2ts format, would I then be able to stream it through my home network to the PS3 without loss of the subtitles?
On point 1, MPEG-2 and H.264 are supported codecs for M2TS file playback from the PS3 HDD, external HDD or UPnP streaming. VC-1 is not supported, and only Dolby Digital and apparently LPCM (haven't tested) multichannel audio are supported (there may be other 2-channel formats supported that I am not aware of).
If you don't want to have to recode VC-1 video or DTS audio, have large files > DVD9 and don't have a Bluray burner, one alternative that works well for me is to use an external hard disk (I use my 30GB iPod) to create a playable AVCHD "disc" that supports VC-1 and/or DTS audio.
It has been described partially in places in this thread but to summarise:
1. Prepare your source video and audio streams appropriately.
2. Use TsMuxer to remux your content to a Blu-ray disc structure. Make sure you use the split feature to set maximum file size to 4GB (this overcomes the FAT32 limitation for external HDD - Bluray supports split files so playback will automatically transition to the next split file)
3. Run the 8.3 file rename tool (http://www.mediafire.com/?ywt2wysnzb1) to create a compliant file naming structure
4. Create a folder called AVCHD in the root directory of your external HDD and place the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders in the folder.
5. Attach your external HDD and open it in the PS3 XMB. A single folder called AVCHD should appear, selecting this will automatically start playing the "disc".
The only issues with the above are:
- Must be 1920x1080 or 1280x720 - green bars will appear for any other resolutions. This is not really an issue for me as I'm only using this method for my old HD-DVD collection (many of which are VC-1 encoded), which specify a resolution of 1920x1080 regardless of the aspect ratio.
- When transitioning between each split file, there is a slight pause (much like the pause that occurs during the transition between layers on DVD9)
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7. May 2008 @ 08:00 |
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Originally posted by mixja666: If you don't want to have to recode VC-1 video or DTS audio, have large files > DVD9 and don't have a Bluray burner, one alternative that works well for me is to use an external hard disk (I use my 30GB iPod) to create a playable AVCHD "disc" that supports VC-1 and/or DTS audio.
It has been described partially in places in this thread but to summarise:
1. Prepare your source video and audio streams appropriately.
2. Use TsMuxer to remux your content to a Blu-ray disc structure. Make sure you use the split feature to set maximum file size to 4GB (this overcomes the FAT32 limitation for external HDD - Bluray supports split files so playback will automatically transition to the next split file)
3. Run the 8.3 file rename tool (http://www.mediafire.com/?ywt2wysnzb1) to create a compliant file naming structure
4. Create a folder called AVCHD in the root directory of your external HDD and place the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders in the folder.
5. Attach your external HDD and open it in the PS3 XMB. A single folder called AVCHD should appear, selecting this will automatically start playing the "disc".
The only issues with the above are:
- Must be 1920x1080 or 1280x720 - green bars will appear for any other resolutions. This is not really an issue for me as I'm only using this method for my old HD-DVD collection (many of which are VC-1 encoded), which specify a resolution of 1920x1080 regardless of the aspect ratio.
- When transitioning between each split file, there is a slight pause (much like the pause that occurs during the transition between layers on DVD9)
With all due respect, what do you mean it has been described partially?
I gave all the instructions necessary.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/621809/4003005
As you can see, the post that I explained the procedure to run Blu-ray folders straight from external media was in reply to a post that had already specified that he had created Blu-ray folders. I don't think it was neccessary to then explain that the files must be Blu-ray compliant as I think that is common sense.
I realise there were some parts that I didn't specify, like the splitting of the files. However, there are times where I like to explain things in simple terms assuming the person receiving my help also has enough knowledge to figure some things out for themself.
A great Teacher will guide in the right direction whilst not explaining everything in absolute detail. They know just the right time to let go, leaving the Student to walk the rest of the way alone. This gives the Student the sense of achievement, as they were the one that made the great breakthrough and achieved everything on their own without much help at all.
"Give a Man a Fish and he is fed for a day, teach a Man to Fish and he is fed for a lifetime".
Please excuse my off topic post. I am feeling quite philosophical tonight. Well... It's kind of my thread anyway. :-P
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ikeyman
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7. May 2008 @ 09:25 |
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Hi Ryu77, would like to seek your professional advise. I have several mkv files with SRT subtitle files of tv episodes. Each of them is around 1GB. I can manage to put each one episode on 1 avchd and playable on PS3. However, if I append 1 or more mkv files and create Blu-ray on tsMuxeR, I got nothing to show on PS3. Is it possible to play several video files on 1 AVCHD by tsMuxeR? Thanks for your help.
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acejhtwo
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7. May 2008 @ 10:44 |
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I have converted a MKV to M2TS using Tsmuxer, it plays fine on my Computer, but when i play in on my PS3 it plays audio, but no video (black screen)
Any ideas on what i am doing wrong?
Thanks for any help.
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mixja666
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7. May 2008 @ 14:08 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
With all due respect, what do you mean it has been described partially?
I gave all the instructions necessary.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/621809/4003005
As you can see, the post that I explained the procedure to run Blu-ray folders straight from external media was in reply to a post that had already specified that he had created Blu-ray folders. I don't think it was neccessary to then explain that the files must be Blu-ray compliant as I think that is common sense.
I realise there were some parts that I didn't specify, like the splitting of the files. However, there are times where I like to explain things in simple terms assuming the person receiving my help also has enough knowledge to figure some things out for themself.
A great Teacher will guide in the right direction whilst not explaining everything in absolute detail. They know just the right time to let go, leaving the Student to walk the rest of the way alone. This gives the Student the sense of achievement, as they were the one that made the great breakthrough and achieved everything on their own without much help at all.
"Give a Man a Fish and he is fed for a day, teach a Man to Fish and he is fed for a lifetime".
Please excuse my off topic post. I am feeling quite philosophical tonight. Well... It's kind of my thread anyway. :-P
Sorry, didn't mean to cause any offense, I was trying to point out clearly the fact you can support VC-1/DTS and the ability to split files without playback interruption on that method of playback, which is not apparent from your original post without reading through other posts.
You are correct great teacher, your original post let me think about the possibilities of this method, which ultimately solved the problem of VC-1 playback on the PS3 without doing a recode!
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7. May 2008 @ 18:32 |
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For some reason Mediainforaw doesnt work all the time. well it works but it doesnt show the full info I need. Ie. it doesnt show the refernece frames so I dont know if it will play on PS3.
for example here is what I got from mediainforaw
Format : Matroska
File size : 66.1 MiB
PlayTime : 1mn 4s
Bit rate : 8569 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2007-09-03 20:59:10
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 2007 23:40:55
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Video #0
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile : High@L5.1
Codec settings, CABAC : Yes
PlayTime : 1mn 4s
Bit rate : 7836 Kbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Language : English
Audio #0
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 1mn 4s
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : English
Text #0
Codec : UTF-8
Codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English
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8. May 2008 @ 08:12 |
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Originally posted by mixja666: Sorry, didn't mean to cause any offense, I was trying to point out clearly the fact you can support VC-1/DTS and the ability to split files without playback interruption on that method of playback, which is not apparent from your original post without reading through other posts.
You are correct great teacher, your original post let me think about the possibilities of this method, which ultimately solved the problem of VC-1 playback on the PS3 without doing a recode!
That's ok... I had a moment that lead me to be cheeky, inspirational and wise at the same time... And now I feel somewhat confused.
On a serious note, thank you very much for your input on this thread. Please feel free to continue to do so. :-)
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p3k0y
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8. May 2008 @ 17:05 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
For some reason 1080p movies need a recode, here is what I do... this method is a little long but it's the only way I know how.
1. Demux all streams (video and audio) with mkvextract
2. Remux to to mp4 (video only) using YAMB or Megui, I use Megui because YAMB for some reason quits on me at the 4gb mark.
3. Recode your mp4 file using Nero Recode to AVC HDTV profile (1080p)... this step will take several hours.
4. Now you need the raw h264 file from the new Nero mp4 file you just made, you can use YAMB to extract this but it's been acting goofy for me... so I use mkvmerge to make a mkv from the Nero file, then mkvextract to get the raw h264 file.
5. Once you have the raw h264 mux everything back together (video and audio) with tsMuxeR, nothing needs to be changed just make sure you choose m2ts.
I know, crazy! But like I said... it works. I'm pretty sure all this can be done in one step using Megui and AVISynth but I'm a completed noob when it comes to AVIsynth.
Hope this helps.
odin24, you and Ryu are just great. I have been reading this thread for a while now (it takes a while). It has answered pretty much all the questions I have about authoring AVCHD from 1080p MKV files. I tried your method and it works! I got an AVCHD with 1080p and DTS and it actually plays in PS3!
But I do have one last hurdle (of course), that I hope you can help me with - Although I can play the AVCHD fine, when I skip to the next chapter, I get no video. The audio plays, but no picture. I know the video is there because if I let it play, it will get to that point. Further testing shows that I can FF at 1.5x speed, but anything higher will kill the video.
I have tried checking and unchecking "Continuously Insert SPS/FPS" in TsMuxer (1.8.4), but that didn't make any difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
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8. May 2008 @ 17:14 |
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Originally posted by p3k0y: Originally posted by odin24:
For some reason 1080p movies need a recode, here is what I do... this method is a little long but it's the only way I know how.
1. Demux all streams (video and audio) with mkvextract
2. Remux to to mp4 (video only) using YAMB or Megui, I use Megui because YAMB for some reason quits on me at the 4gb mark.
3. Recode your mp4 file using Nero Recode to AVC HDTV profile (1080p)... this step will take several hours.
4. Now you need the raw h264 file from the new Nero mp4 file you just made, you can use YAMB to extract this but it's been acting goofy for me... so I use mkvmerge to make a mkv from the Nero file, then mkvextract to get the raw h264 file.
5. Once you have the raw h264 mux everything back together (video and audio) with tsMuxeR, nothing needs to be changed just make sure you choose m2ts.
I know, crazy! But like I said... it works. I'm pretty sure all this can be done in one step using Megui and AVISynth but I'm a completed noob when it comes to AVIsynth.
Hope this helps.
odin24, you and Ryu are just great. I have been reading this thread for a while now (it takes a while). It has answered pretty much all the questions I have about authoring AVCHD from 1080p MKV files. I tried your method and it works! I got an AVCHD with 1080p and DTS and it actually plays in PS3!
But I do have one last hurdle (of course), that I hope you can help me with - Although I can play the AVCHD fine, when I skip to the next chapter, I get no video. The audio plays, but no picture. I know the video is there because if I let it play, it will get to that point. Further testing shows that I can FF at 1.5x speed, but anything higher will kill the video.
I have tried checking and unchecking "Continuously Insert SPS/FPS" in TsMuxer (1.8.4), but that didn't make any difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Do you know how to use AviSynth and MeGUI. If so there is a way to fix this. If you tried the Nero method mentioned above and it worked for you that's good but the AviSynth method produces results far more superior... I strongly recommend familiarizing yourself with these apps.
If you do know how to use AviSynth I can guide you through it fairly easily, if not I can still help but it might take a little longer.
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p3k0y
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8. May 2008 @ 19:34 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Do you know how to use AviSynth and MeGUI. If so there is a way to fix this. If you tried the Nero method mentioned above and it worked for you that's good but the AviSynth method produces results far more superior... I strongly recommend familiarizing yourself with these apps.
If you do know how to use AviSynth I can guide you through it fairly easily, if not I can still help but it might take a little longer.
Thanks for the quick Response, Odin. I do have both Avisynth and MeGui configured and working (as far as I can tell), but it's not very obvious to me how to use them to build an AVCHD from 1080p MKV file. So yes, a guide would be greatly appreciated. Perhaps you can start with a list of high-level steps and I will ask questions when I get stuck?
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8. May 2008 @ 21:35 |
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Originally posted by p3k0y: Originally posted by odin24:
Do you know how to use AviSynth and MeGUI. If so there is a way to fix this. If you tried the Nero method mentioned above and it worked for you that's good but the AviSynth method produces results far more superior... I strongly recommend familiarizing yourself with these apps.
If you do know how to use AviSynth I can guide you through it fairly easily, if not I can still help but it might take a little longer.
Thanks for the quick Response, Odin. I do have both Avisynth and MeGui configured and working (as far as I can tell), but it's not very obvious to me how to use them to build an AVCHD from 1080p MKV file. So yes, a guide would be greatly appreciated. Perhaps you can start with a list of high-level steps and I will ask questions when I get stuck?
Here you go. This thread will alos be very helpful to you. Follow my most recent post.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/4/639346
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calimon
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9. May 2008 @ 15:23 |
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Hello guys,
I'm kinda new to all this video converting, muxing ets stuff. I'm trying to mux a .mkv video file to ts for PS3 using the guide on afterdawn, but I have a problem. I'm using tsMuxer I change the x264 format to 4.1 instead of 5.1 as shown in the tutorial, but all I get from the video stream is black screen! I have excellent audio. Any suggestions?
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9. May 2008 @ 16:02 |
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Originally posted by calimon: Hello guys,
I'm kinda new to all this video converting, muxing ets stuff. I'm trying to mux a .mkv video file to ts for PS3 using the guide on afterdawn, but I have a problem. I'm using tsMuxer I change the x264 format to 4.1 instead of 5.1 as shown in the tutorial, but all I get from the video stream is black screen! I have excellent audio. Any suggestions?
If your mkv is "1080p" you most likely will need to recode it so it is within PS3 specifications.
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calimon
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9. May 2008 @ 16:20 |
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The video is 1080 indeed. I've tried to mux it to blueray disk -> I have the same result. Strange I thought all BD are in 1080 and PS3 can play them or is there any restriction for the divx? I'll test a 720 video tomorrow and will see if this is the problem.
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9. May 2008 @ 17:45 |
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Originally posted by calimon: The video is 1080 indeed. I've tried to mux it to blueray disk -> I have the same result. Strange I thought all BD are in 1080 and PS3 can play them or is there any restriction for the divx? I'll test a 720 video tomorrow and will see if this is the problem.
720p, will be fine. Lately the 1080p rips have had some sort of incompatiblity, I'm not sure though.
When Ryu wakes up he'll be able to tell you.
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9. May 2008 @ 17:59 |
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Here's something I've recently discovered.
I just made a AVCHD DVD9 with Spanish audio and english subs (srt). The text has a lot of accents which caused some confusion to the PS3 displaying a bunch of weird text and symbols where the accented letter should be. I manually edited the srt file and replaced the accented characters with normal ones which corrected my issue.
Originally the file came with a .sup file which cannot be edited without converting to srt. I had trouble doing this so I went here to aquire what I hoped originally came with the mkv.
http://subscene.com/search.aspx
EDIT: BTW, if you are making a AVCHD DVD with subs I highly reccomend experimenting with the AVCHD_ME program Ryu posted earlier in this thread... or else you could be making a few shiny coasters before you get your desired output. In tsMuxeR you can trim your movie... I just made a 5 minute sample which was abou 400mb, perfect for verifying your work before burning to disc.
Hope this helps.
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LordJD
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10. May 2008 @ 03:46 |
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Hi,
I converted the MKV to Blu-ray using TsMuxeR to play in my PS3, I have audio but no picture.
Any help would be appreciated.
jd
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jjhann
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10. May 2008 @ 23:47 |
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Excellent software....
BUT, My only issue is that most MKV files are 4.3 Gigs, just enough to fit on a DVD. When I convert them now, they are 4.8G, etc.
Is there any way to slightly compress the MKV file before the convesion ? It's usually only 300-400 MB we're talking about here.Appreicate the help
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