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Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread
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lon
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5. June 2006 @ 11:12 |
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I had a weird experience with my TY's yesterday: the
disk quality jumped down to 93% and stayed there but all the
PI errors were unusually low.
I'm perplexed.
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5. June 2006 @ 11:14 |
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Please give more info, which burner, firmware up to date, what was the burn speed, a Nero Burn Log if possible, and any other info to help us figure out what is up.
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5. June 2006 @ 11:30 |
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@TY4ever
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If i'm right,the media ID code can be faked,so those who would like to get the real Taiyo made DVDs can't just take the results obtained by DVD Identifier for granted.Am i right here?
But what about the inner hub code which appears on the DVD?Can this one also be faked or can it be taken as the real guide to know if the DVD in hand is a genuine Taiyo or not?
YES, u are correct in your first assumption~ :)
your 2nd question, to MY knowledge, the inner hub coding has YET TO BE FAKED, ONLY Taiyo Yuden puts these on their genuine TYs as i have NOT seen this (ie. a fake inner hub coding) on any other "brands" that use Taiyo Yuden as their manufacturer~ you can almost be 100% certain that if you find the CORRECT/CORRESPONDING inner hub coding on the media, it is genuine/authentic Taiyo Yuden...
the inner hub codings and their corresponding rated speed/format is found on my very 1st post wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy back on page 1 in this thread, hehe. :)
as both i and the creators of Mortal Kombat say, "flawless victory" :P
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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hwrench
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5. June 2006 @ 15:19 |
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just read over on cd freaks somebody has dl -r taiyo yudens s/n gd000000. what do you think doc. must be fake ?
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5. June 2006 @ 17:31 |
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Is there a place or is there some one that can exsplain the disk check on Nero? Have read many times here at AD that the ones w/ the most knowledge want to see the log... I have ran a disk ... and have no idea what I am looking at?
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5. June 2006 @ 20:14 |
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Thanks everyone for replying my earlier post.
You're right when you said that the easiest way to get the real Taiyo media is to buy them online at reputable stores such as supermediastore,meritline and rima.Then you won't have any doubt whether they are real ones or fake ones.
But my problem is that i'm not from U.S nor from Europe.I live in Mauritius(but actually in Shanghai) and there,i'm almost sure that noone has ever heard about the so famous and reputable Taiyo Yuden media.Plus,i don't know if these stores mentioned earlier can ship to Mauritius.If can,i would be a bit worry about the condition of the products when reach the final destination because of bad and careless handling during shipping(mostly international shipping).I know that if you are not satisfied with the product or if it's damaged you can get them replaced but it's a bit too complicated that way.
So a bit of hunting(as said by windtrade)in Shanghai may then be more suitable.It's only by making some research from the net that i found afterdawn forum and thanks to it(to docTY's thread) that my interest for Taiyo's media has started.From that moment i said to myself that i will have to get these famous Taiyos and that's how luckily i've found a store here in Shanghai where some few 50-pack spindles of Verbatim DVD+R 8X were available.But at that time of the first purchase it was kind of gambling as i couln't say if they were really Taiyo Yuden ones only by looking at the packing where it is written "made in Japan".But onced reached home and after matching the results i got with the ones posted by docTY,then i was almost sure that i got the real ones.
Now i hope,as said by doc TY,that the inner hub coding has not yet been faked,as mine corresponds to those he posted on the very first page of his thread.
Wo!!!!i think i've been writing a bit too long this time,so gonna stop here.
But thanks to all of ya for all the precious informations and replies you are putting together in this thread to make it the BEST place to jump in when looking for or sharing about any info about any Taiyo media!!!!!
Vincent.
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5. June 2006 @ 21:12 |
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For aabbccdd, I know this is not the thread to use but for right now it's the only place I can find you, I know your an avid user of clone, I ran into a problem and wonder if you can help, I did try to use clones tech support but they say its temporaraly down for now, when I click on my clone icon of course the page comes on, than I click on clone dvd like I always did before, than the title configration window comes on, I than click on the box above on the right with that arrow, it gives two options, D:/VIDEO_TS or under it says browse, I tried ever folder under browse and none of that worked, so I try D:/VIDEO_TS than I get this message from clone.
D:/VIDEO_TS
D:/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO:unable to open file
this devise is not ready
please be sure that all required files are ready and try again.
now several days ago I did empty my temporary folders bin to clean up a lot of crapola, I hope I didnt pull a crapolo in doing so, because I'm not really computer savvy I just can't understand what went wrong, do you have a suggestion, thanks.
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5. June 2006 @ 23:36 |
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Fredbun you can PM me anytime
to fix your problem uninstall and do a clean reinstall of CloneDVD 2 to do a clean reinstall clean the registy (CCleaner is a great tool for this) a disc cleanup and defragging your system then reboot and reinstall CloneDVD 2 and you should be good to go. heres a guide to use CloneDVD 2 in case you get confused
http://bbmayo.home.comcast.net/
remember if your ripping alot of dvds do a disc cleanup several times a week and defrag at least once a week
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6. June 2006 @ 00:49 |
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aabbccdd,
I just wanted to second the great advice that aabbccdd gave.
I use Ccleaner and CloneDVD2, as well as another great product I purchased that came with the price lowered when the products were bundled together.
CloneDVD2 is a very fast product and seems too fast and simple to be as effective as it is.
I personally, like to first create an image file on my drive, then check out my results first, before burning. Burning from a image file is the fastest type of burn. All of the encoding and formatting has been done already.
I cannot say enough on how crucial and wonderful the "donationware" product Ccleaner is. I just got alerted and installed a free upgrade yesteraday.
It is better than any commercial product that does the same thing. erasing those secret "index.dat" files is agreart thing as well.
I can tell you that since I started using Ccleaner, my spyware/adware software usually never finds anything !! I remove ALL of my cookies every day as well lith Ccleaner, although it is important for youor browser to keep accepting cooking or one will be limited to which sites one can go to. In general, any inconvenience the Cookie removal might have, I believe is MORE than made up by removing me as a target for all sorts of Corporate nonsense and garbage on my PC.
Running Ccleaner, is sort of like booting your PC, without haveing to boot up. There are countless times that I recall my PC running slower than it should, browsing slower than it should, having multimedia software hand or slow down, etc.
Jon
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6. June 2006 @ 01:03 |
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I would like to ask for comments on vendors other than Meritline and Supermedia. Not because I want to criticize those vendors at all, but to let all know that there are alternatives to those two.
For getting some "official" TYs, I have used some and not used some of the ones I will mention. I would really like for others to comment and maybe we can come up with a moving list of reliable vendors.
a. http://www.newegg.com
a1. The TY store at newegg. Just saw a 50 pack of TY DVD-Rs for $20.99 and a 50 pack of TY DVD+Rs for $23.99. DVD-R 50 pack of white inkjet printables for $21.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Pagesize=100&Page=1...
b. http://www.rima.com
c. http://www.neato.com
c1. http://www.neato.com/neato_prodtest_search.asp?mscsid=S44GFMECU6C...
c. http://www.amazon.com
The vendors I personally like are those that I have something "go wrong with". All vendors look great when things go well, but I feel that when there are some issues with a purchase (especially mail order), is when one really finds out what a vendor is like.
I have been enjoying having a Canon IP4200 and doing inkjet direct to media printing, thus eliminating the use of labels, therefore I look for white inkjet printable media. great for writing on as well.
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6. June 2006 @ 05:15 |
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@jolo,
one other merchant I have used before to get TY disks is http://www.shop4tech.com
Personally I have never had a problem with them, but as a cautionary note I believe they were a source of fake TY a couple of years ago as reported by some members.
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6. June 2006 @ 05:19 |
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I too have used Shop4tech and got genuine TY's, however I was cautious about it, and although there were no problems I still stick with SMS or Meritline. Guess it is just a trust issue.
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6. June 2006 @ 05:25 |
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6. June 2006 @ 07:23 |
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@docTY.
hey buddy i just got a couple sony dvd-r 1-16x mij. got them from my sis in law in indiana i used dvdidentifier on it doesnt code out as TY even though it says made in japan. here the clip
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:SONY16D1]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Sony Recording Media Co.]
Manufacturer ID : [SONY16D1]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
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the innerhub says drm2gg0001 if that helps ya out..
when i first got them i seen they sade MIJ and was 16x. couldnt wait to checkthem out and get back with ya bt it dont look like its the real thing.
here is a second disc from the same group a total differnt scan.
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:SONY08D1]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Sony Recording Media Co.]
Manufacturer ID : [SONY08D1]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
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@blivet
hey bud hows it going? them reds of mine are on fire right now..lol hey was it you that siad you had a burner like mine ? the HP740r? was curious about that nero speed check it doesnt work well with my burner doesnt show any pi errors etc. just 1 green line straight across the board
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6. June 2006 @ 09:01 |
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8. June 2006 @ 07:50 |
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well i just got firewall and underworld evolution. burned firewall took 20:33 mins to burn on a 16x DVD+R verb burnt at 8x. did a disc scan and came up perfect on the crc read error. put it in the player and wham big pixels all over. havent done underworld yet.guess when i do gonna have to use those TY coded sony's......and i even used the new AnyDVD 6.0.0.4....
oh yea why has it been 2 days since a post has been made it this awsome forum???lol
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8. June 2006 @ 08:43 |
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what the diff between TY's premium and value line?
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8. June 2006 @ 20:42 |
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@Cincyrob, Go Reds, sorry to hear about your problem with DVDinfoPro, you are using windows XP right?
Burned the same two movies you mentioned, and they were awesome with the Sony TY-G03 disks,nice looking vampire eh?
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9. June 2006 @ 04:34 |
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@blivet
i uninstalled it and reinstalled it again works a bit better but i think my burner still isnt compatiable with it. i can do the crc error scan ok. but when i go to do the pi and others it doesnt do anything. as far as the movies go i just think i burned firewall to fast on the verbs(burnt at 12x) cause when i did it on the sony(mij) i burnt at 4x and was perfect but i still havent done underworld..
wheres the DOC been haven beeb blessed with his presence in a few days??????
how about them REDS 8 in a row i dont see us loseing again in the next 10 days...lol
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9. June 2006 @ 07:10 |
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I've also ordered from Rima.com and have always been pleased. I just choose the best price between Rima and SMS.
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9. June 2006 @ 08:03 |
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what the diff between TY's premium and value line?
I think the value line is just older stock/excess inventory. I've used HUNDREDS of the value line 8X inkjet printables to date, and they score just as well in CD/DVDSpeed as my premium line does. I have had ZERO problems with the value line.
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9. June 2006 @ 16:25 |
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burned firewall took 20:33 mins to burn
Hope that was coding time included? That's a long time for just a burn.
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9. June 2006 @ 19:17 |
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@cincyrob
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wheres the DOC been haven beeb blessed with his presence in a few days??????
how nice of you, lol...been real busy w/ work and i don't come on AD as much anymore...for my OWN personal reasons...but, regarding those Sony's you got...NO, they are not Taiyo Yudens, but still very decent media IMHO. :)
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hey buddy i just got a couple sony dvd-r 1-16x mij. got them from my sis in law in indiana i used dvdidentifier on it doesnt code out as TY even though it says made in japan. here the clip
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:SONY16D1]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Sony Recording Media Co.]
Manufacturer ID : [SONY16D1]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
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[ DVD Identifier V4.3.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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the innerhub says drm2gg0001 if that helps ya out..
that is Sony's own media...as much as the inner hub coding plays a relevant part to Taiyo Yudens, i don't have enough Sony's to really make an honest distinction between the various codes on Sony's own media...i have in fact used both the MIT and MIJ Sony's with the same MID coding, as i mentioned, decent stuff; but since i now only use certain manufacturers on my media, PERSONAL PREFERENCE again, i am not the one to ask regarding Sony media (this is due to a very limited use of it...less than 100 of Sony's own media in all the rated speeds and formats ie. 8x, 16x; 400+ of the Sony MIJ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02s) :)
been so busy overclocking my system last few days, playing catchup with my TY thread now hehe :)
have a good one all, regarding the valueline vs premiumline question earlier, the difference between the two FOR MOST PEOPLE is not even noticeable, the chances of getting a "bad batch" for either line is the same...i happen to get identical quality scores regardless if i use the valueline TYs or the premium line, i naturally have MANY of both :) IMHO, if buying online, as long as it's from a reputable source, ie. supermediastore, meritline, rima, even shop4tech; i see nothing really that STANDS OUT if one chooses to save a few bucks and get the "valueline" ones...whether shiny silver or inkjet printables in the tape wrapped spindles...shop around for the best shipped price, after thousands used, FOR MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, i have had equal success with my valueline as i have with my premiumline, if i made anyone a backup using my valueline TYs and my premiumline TYs, i am more than willing to bet they would NOT know the difference between the two~ :)
docTY
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Now i hope,as said by doc TY,that the inner hub coding has not yet been faked,as mine corresponds to those he posted on the very first page of his thread.
may you have continued success finding these rare "gems" in the rough :) i can imagine how difficult it must be obtaining them in your neck of the woods as they are NOT readily available...good luck buddy, it's a shame these big online retailers here in the U.S. don't ship overseas to you; but i can also imagine the price of shipping alone would make the price on the media itself seem totally ridiculous. end up paying an arm and a leg just to have some TYs and THEN you have to HOPE that they are not damaged thru customs...etc...what a big headache~ :( you can pretty much forget about getting an RMA...that would take MONTHS! and would cost you entirely TOO MUCH to ship them back for an exchange...
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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9. June 2006 @ 20:08 |
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Doc, any info on why rebranded TY's are getting so hard to find these days?
Really haven't seen any on store shelves in about one month. We need a few prescriptions for Tys here. Less than 100 left now.
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9. June 2006 @ 20:23 |
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@blivetNC
as to WHY rebranded TYs are becoming more and more scarce locally, i think that is very much dependent on what those branded companies purchase from TY, whether they have chosen to go to lower cost manufacturers for higher profit margins or their contracts with Taiyo Yuden need to be renegotiated or for whatever other corporate reasons...we, as the consumers, will have to turn to the online retailers more frequently now to be reassured that you are getting TYs (if that's what you prefer as media of choice of course) :)
i see the benefits of just going to local stores and picking up media that works well with your particular setup, but personally, it's gotten to a point where nowadays, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GONNA GET in the newer 16x rated speeds by various brands, if one finds joy in sifting thru the MIT and MIJ spindles (if they can even find the MIJ anymore), to each their own...when it comes to TYs, my only suggestion for 100% accuracy with NO GUESS WORK involved is to just order online from the reputable stores mentioned all throughtout this thread...
it's happened on a few occassions in the past even with the 8x rated media, the brand switched manufacturers mid-stream and what was ONCE Taiyo Yuden produced, then became a much worse product (my OWN OPINION of course, this is naturally concerning TDK) :)
at least locally, from what i've observed, the only brand that is really RELIABLE in terms of getting good quality media EVERY TIME, is Verbatim~ :) at least here in the U.S., i have YET to see a single layer Verbatim that was not MCC (Mitsubishi CHemicals Corp) produced...all MIT too~ no need for searching MIT vs MIJ...etc..etc..
i'm still waiting to see if ANYONE has gotten the YUDEN000T03s 16x DVD+R LOCALLY under the Sony brand yet, so far, i haven't heard of it happening...
happy hunting guys...good luck
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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