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17. June 2006 @ 14:05 |
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and with the DVD itself missing the traditional serial code on the inner ring representing the TY series, is this disc I have an actual TY disc, or a fake?
- Inner hub has an ID: 307T
when sellers on ebay "claim" to have media "made to Taiyo Yuden specs," that is where they tend to throw people off; the whole idea of determining a manufacturer based on the reported MID coding by dvd identifier/dvd decrypter/nero/dvdinfo pro/etc. can be very much misleading since the MID coding is easily "faked" these days...
what you got with your 2 disc sample is definitely NOT GENUINE Taiyo Yudens, the reported "inner hub has an ID: 307T" you posted confirms that, i am more than willing to bet that these discs are "made in taiwan" and we ALL should know that one of the criteria for AUTHENTIC Taiyo Yudens is they are ALWAYS 100% of the time "MADE IN JAPAN," regardless of "branding" (ie. Sony, Fuji, Tdk, or Verbatim-in the UK/Europe/parts of Asia) :)
lastly, with that auction number given, it leads directly back to what i first suspected: silver-tek media~ the #1 seller of NON-AUTHENTIC TY media as reported by MANY members here and a handful of threads discussing them in the past here on AD~ :) a quick search on AD would lead you to other members being FALSELY led to believe that what they were purchasing were genuine TYs, however, it has already been confirmed that this seller (while listing this particular media with the Taiyo Yuden logo on his auction) does NOT sell the "real deal" (ie. read as genuine Taiyo Yudens)
a lesson learned, even if it cost you $1 for 2 discs, that's still $0.49 each TOO MUCH you paid, now you know~ :)
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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17. June 2006 @ 14:32 |
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SilverTek media, Doc Ty's close Drinking buddy.
He's all over the forums here with Fake Ty Media. Actually, he is in this very forum and very thread a few pages back.
You are better off buying locally from Best Buy, Office Depot, Office Max, Staples, Big Lots,or from a reputible online store as previously mentioned, personally I wpuld avoid E-Bay like the plague for media.In brick and mortar stores, look for the MIJ Label on Sony 8X, Fuji, or Sony 16X with white octagonal spacers. Browse the Blank Media forum, look for Jaspers44's posts each week on what will be on sale,
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/354859
edited to add comment.
Here is one of the threads about Silvertek media,
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/233418
some feedback from his site.
FAKES see details in afterdawn forums. Search for silver-tek there....you'll see
Buyer akyllonen(private) Apr-18-06 11:52 8789022606
Reply by silver-tek_media_store: THE AUCTION CLEARLY STATES MADE BY 3RD PARTY MANUFACTUER, NEXT TIME PLS READ!!! Apr-18-06 11:57
SELLER SELLS FAKE MEDIA!!! POOR QUALITY.. IMITATION TAIYO YUDEN...DO NOT BUY!!!
Buyer roxford1 ( 21) Apr-17-06 22:24 8787352323
Reply by silver-tek_media_store: NEXT TIME READ! WE STATE CLEARLY IN THE AUCTION MADE BY 3rd PARTY MANUFACTURER! Apr-18-06 05:32
DO NOT buy these DVD's. Not real TAIYO YUDEN. Disc quality check zero highest 22
Buyer bezzlediamond ( 10) Apr-15-06 16:27 8790106477
Reply by silver-tek_media_store: ANYONE READING THIS CHECK THIS BUYERS FEEDBACK NEGATIVE FEEDBACK CITY
Negative feedback can be undone, will send you an email in 24hours, pls consider
Seller silver-tek_media_store ( 1221) Apr-15-06 18:54 8790106477
Reply by bezzlediamond: Leaves neg feeback because of fake items i brought bad seller DO NOT DO BUSINESS Apr-16-06 00:52
Follow-up by silver-tek_media_store: NEXT TIME READ! WE STATE CLEARLY IN THE AUCTION MADE BY 3rd PARTY MANUFACTURER!
I think you all get the point here.
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17. June 2006 @ 14:58 |
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SilverTek media, Doc Ty's close Drinking buddy
LOL, yah, u know i miss it when people stop calling me "an idiot that knows nothing about media" LOL
i really hope he personally comes in here, rather than sending his cronies to do the job...hahahahha
let the battle begin...
docTY
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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18. June 2006 @ 03:40 |
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Yeah Yeah Yeah,
I understand that. That wasn't my point - "identity theft." I'm 36 years old, I read the news, not to be sarcastic by know means. But, with "identity theft", unless you're James Bond, know one is duplicating my finger prints.
Folks that wish to produce and sell TY related media, should atleast announce "it's of the family", not use the name to get some business, like one possibly claiming they are Elvis' son just to use the name to advance one's finances.
Come to find out, I've burned 10 more games on the TYG03's, and they have proved successful with my PS2. So, it appears to have just been a bad disc in the bunch with my first attempt.
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19. June 2006 @ 22:50 |
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silvertek! silvertek! yay! j/k lol
looks like a slow week w/ Taiyo Yuden problems...that's a GOOD thing when using the "good stuff" :)
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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20. June 2006 @ 05:53 |
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Seems Silvertek does a lucrative business ripping people off :(
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20. June 2006 @ 05:54 |
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Yeah,
I did more research, and discovered that "company" has more than a bad name. The good thing though, the first seller I dealt with had actually TY dvds, with the serial coding series and disc ID manufacturer matched correctly. The skipping in my PS2 with the TYG03's came to be a dirty lense. My Xbox was playing those dvds just fine, as well as my home player (Apex - original huge Black box system).
I wrote the "beta" disc seller back, and he replied stating that "TY gave him permission to use their name, yada yada." That in itself was fraud, because I don't see a big name giving a little boy the ball to play in the street with.
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Okay I have a rant, it is bad enough you have to worry about fake media, which is why it is better to buy from reputable dealers and not ebay. However, now this surfaces, so I now have to worry about just what I am burning those disks on and if it is fake as well.
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Counterfeit BenQ and Plextor DVD-burners sold on China market
Posted by Herbert on 20 June 2006 - 10:47 - Source: DigiTimes
Piracy in China is a well known problem and it seems that the country doesn?t care much about it because it?s still one of the countries with the highest piracy rates around the world. In past we could mainly read about counterfeit movie-DVDs being sold for a price much less than the original discs and the efforts of the US movie industry to reduce this kind of piracy by releasing movies on DVDs earlier than usual and by selling them much cheaper. However, now it seems that counterfeit DVD-burners are becoming more and more a problem in China.
The selling of counterfeit entry-level DVD burners under various brand names, such as BenQ and Plextor forced the Taiwanese makers to lower the prices for those bands to US$ 48-50. These price cuts have boosted the sales but reduced the margins for distributors and retailers of branded products.
BenQ, Lite-On IT and other leading Taiwanese makers of DVD burners are closely monitoring the Taiwan market to prevent the inflow of phony products made in China, the sources noted. Because Taiwan's anti-piracy measures are significantly stricter than China's and pricing for DVD burners in Taiwan is more competitive than in China, counterfeit models from China are difficult to prevent from surfacing in the Taiwan market, the sources pointed out.
Well, now I guess that another few companies (besides the movie industry) will strengthen their pressure on China to force the country to change their low-level anti piracy measures into stricter ones. But from a realistic point of few: I doubt this won?t happen.
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13568
Let's hope this does not creep into the US market, and newegg keeps up there status...........now buying from ebay you are taking a chance. Just my two cents.
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21. June 2006 @ 01:53 |
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Hot damn!!! TY DL media!!! I wonder when these will hit the US?
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Taiyo Yuden announces the new single-sided dual-layer DVD-R (DVD-R DL) disc for video archiving purposes with 8x recording speed, fastest in the industry, to go on sale July 1 under the company's own That's brand. A DVD recorder capable of 8x recording speed can record 215 minutes of video data saved on a hard disk with standard definition onto the DVD-R DL disc in about 15 minutes.
With the spread of DVD recorders with DVD-R recording functionality, an increasing number of people have come to record programs on hard disks to save them on DVD-R discs later on. Moreover, the World Cup Soccer Tournament opened on June 9, and is to be followed by the World Track and Field Championships in 2007 and the Beijing Olympics in 2008, all events that will provide opportunities for saving long-running sports programs on DVD-R. With a conventional single-sided single-layer DVD-R, however, the video data that can be saved on a single disc is limited to only 120 minutes of standard definition video, and video quality is degraded when longer running videos are saved on such a single-layer DVD-R disc. In addition, while there already exist DVD-R DL products capable of saving longer running video data, of up to 215 minutes of video data in standard definition, they are only able to record at 4x speed, which means that more than 30 minutes is required to transfer video data that have been recorded on a hard disk onto such a DVD-R DL disc.
Taiyo Yuden acted to improve on this performance by utilizing its high-level core technologies in thermal design and substrate design to achieve a DVD-R DL capable of 8x recording speed, the fastest in the industry. This product can record on DVD-R DL up to 215 minutes of video data of standard definition in about 15 minutes.
The new DVD-R DL product is available in two types, one for regular analog broadcast video, and the other with CPRM compatibility for digital broadcast ?copy once programs,? so-called because they limit digital recording to one copy only. Moreover, a wide printable label extends the printable range by 10mm further inside than regular printable label type, allowing more flexibility for inkjet printers. Sales are to start July 1 with a 5-disc pack in a slim plastic case. Prices will be set as open prices.
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13573
It's about time... I can't wait for these. DocTY, how soon can you get your hands on these and let us know how they fare???
EDIT: AND they are HUB PRINTABLE as well.... The new king in DL media is here baby!!!!!
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hehe, this was announced on cdfreaks even before i heard about it, as you can expect, the European and Asian circles hear about these new Taiyo Yuden releases BEFORE i get my info from TY here in the U.S. we here in the U.S. get newer media SLOWER and availability is ALWAYS limited here; if i had a choice in country of living, it would def. be Japan IF my occupation were entirely MEDIA based :)
UNFORTUNATELY, it's only in the dvd-r DL format, NOT in the dvd+r DL format that we've all come to love in the Verbatim, made in singapore, dvd+r DLs :)
at least in the dvd-r DL market, there IS A NEW KING, and it's Taiyo Yuden~ :) Verbatim will still hold the crown for the dvd+r DLs
glad you saw this article first...time to get on my TY rep. to step it up a notch in terms of TIMELY INFO! LOL
have a good one.
docTY
p.s. i'll try my best to get my hands on a few pieces to let those of us in the United States know, have NO CLUE when that will be though...probably within the month of July after it's release on the other side of the globe...
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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Hey docTY got a question for ya.... since i have been useing these sony 8x MIJ's(ty coded) it seems my burner dont like my old 16x Verbs..... all the burns i do on the sony's come out perfect, the ones i use my verbs on seem to have noticable pixles and some skips and freezing going on is it possiable my burner is not reading these verbs accuratlly like the sonys? did i just spoil my burner buy using the TY's it likes the caviar and not the boiled eggs???lol
i have once bunrt a movie twice once on the sony and once on the verbs sont was great and the verb had pixles???? just curious. i did the same thing on the movie (which was the incredables). ripped with AnyDVD to HD then used clonedvd2 to burn from HD each time . but the only thing i did do different is i burnt the sonys at 6x and the verbs at 8x...
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22. June 2006 @ 13:32 |
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Hi folks,
DocTY (Kivory666) ... I have a question ...
Would I be OK if I buy the Taiyo "Value" DVD-R ... but I can not be sure if they will be DVD-R 4X or 8X or 16X ... also, I guess they are Grade B ... whatever that means ... versus byuing DVD-R 8X and they are Grade A ...
Now, I have bought both kinds and I have run the BenQ QSuite test on the Taiyo Blanks and surprisingly I got a better Graph for the VALUE media ...
Q: So, what do you suggest I buy the VALUE or the Grade A? there is a 7 to 8 Cents price difference?
Thanks!
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Received my second shipment of Taiyo Yuden white inkjet printable DVD-R 8X Valueline from sms.com. This shipment's batch numbers were one spindle GG000196 and two spindles GG000223. My first shipment was GG000077 and GG000106. I also noticed that this shipment does not contain the "caution" insert at the top of the spindle...
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Hi Teflonmyk,
"TY white inkjet printable DVD-R 8X Valueline from sms.com."
Q1: Were these wrapped in Shrinkwarp plastic and on it said Valueline?
"This shipment's batch numbers were one spindle GG000196 and two spindles GG000223. My first shipment was GG000077 and GG000106."
Q2: your first batch ... which one did you like Better the "GG00077" or the "GG000106" ... meaning which one scanned better?
Q3: Have you had a chance to try out your "196" and "223" yet? And what is your verdict?
THANKS!
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i'm not completely sure what's going on w/ your 16x Verbs on your specific HP burner, MY GUESS would be that the firmware for your burner is not optimized properly to handle those Verbatim 16x media~ :) while the actual MID code and firmware table may be there, i think a generalized statement would be that you will have MORE success with 8x media rather than the faster 16x media, regardless of TY or Verbatim~ :) that's just MY take on it...
also, how frequently have you found HP to update the firmware for your specific burner? i think that is where they are "lacking" since the 16x media is widely available now locally and the 8x rated media are a little more difficult to find~ :) for the older model burners, sometimes it takes a year or more before certain manufacturers even update their firmware for a specific model, some models just get left behind and an update is not even on the horizon, so you juss SOL if your burner falls into that category :(
out of ALL my drives i currently use, i have NOT YET FOUND one that "prefers" to burn a 16x rated Verbatim disc slower than 8x, so, i would keep it at your current burn speed; HOWEVER, if you have some time to TRY, burn it slower (ie. 6x or 4x) to see if it improves AT ALL, it not, then it's pretty much because the firmware is not optimal for the 16x Verbs (i am guessing you will have similar results with other branded 16x media, NOT just Verbatim) :)
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Would I be OK if I buy the Taiyo "Value" DVD-R ... but I can not be sure if they will be DVD-R 4X or 8X or 16X ... also, I guess they are Grade B ... whatever that means ... versus byuing DVD-R 8X and they are Grade A ...
Now, I have bought both kinds and I have run the BenQ QSuite test on the Taiyo Blanks and surprisingly I got a better Graph for the VALUE media ...
Q: So, what do you suggest I buy the VALUE or the Grade A? there is a 7 to 8 Cents price difference?
simple answer: YES, you will be just fine w/ the "value-line" TYs, much like your test results w/ Benq QSuite, i too have found some particular batches of my "valueline" to score BETTER in quality than the "premium" line (the normal unbranded TYs in a cakebox spindle) :)
as to your burner, which model Benq do you have? i only have experience with the 1640 and 1650 (i'm not a lightscribe person, so no 1655 for me) :P
also, since you mentioned you have a Benq, these drives FROM MY EXPERIENCE actually "prefer" the dvd+r format, so ALL my burns onto dvd+r booktyped to dvd-rom (via QSuite booktype tab) are done on my Benq drives while burns onto dvd-r format are done using my Pioneer dvr-109 :) just personal preference once again, nothing in stone~ :)
Benq drives burn pretty well to dvd-r format too, just "better" onto dvd+r :) do you have SolidBurn "on" too? i don't know how much it actually "helps" but i have it "learn my media" and mine is set to "on" lol
but, getting back to things...save a few bucks by getting the valueline TYs, you will "most likely" get the TYG02 or TYG03s (8x and 16x respectively) and i PREFER the TYG02 over that of the 16x TYG03s PERSONALLY, but that does not mean you will not have success with them...i just got too frustrated earlier on when the TYG03s were first released and lo and behold, i got a "bad batch" early on...which led me to be very cautious about using them from that point on (i have used over 500 TYG03s, but if given a choice, i would always recommend the 8x dvd-r TYG02s over the TYG03s) the same holds true for the dvd+r format as well, for both Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim and Maxell too :)
hope that helps clarify a little bit :)
docTY
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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@docTY
Thanks alot. my firmware has only been updated once since i have had the burnner(since january) i check the site once a week to see if there has been any updates but there hasnt been any other than the one i have gotten allready... I have tried burning a few at 6x and the seem not to have a problem as of yet. only have checked them out to make sure they are playing never watched the whole movie yet but i will this weekend....
all in all i think im gonna be going burner shopping this weekend. form what i have heard form eveyone in here i dont think i can go wrong with getting a Benq or a plextor.. one of those 2 i will be looking at, not sure on which model as of yet gotta do my homework on that... thanks again...
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@CINCYROB---If 16x burning is what you are looking for, to shave 3-4 minutes of burn time you'll probably want the newest Plexi. If great quality for price is what you want you may want Benq. Get 2 Benqs for the price of the Plexi. My Benqs scan great at 8x and a regular disc is 8 minutes.
P.S.---lets hope the Indians snap their sorry butts up this weekend.
Battle of Ohio will be even better this fall if you hear what my dawgs are barking.
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@cincyrob
Which model HP burner do you have, I had a 640C which was supposed to be a rebadged BenQ, and it gave me problems with skipping. I would have rings were data was not burned, the disk would play and then freeze and you could see this ring for a little bit and then the burn would continue. Got rid of it and bought a Plex and never had the problems since. I do have a BenQ1625 on my wifes Dell and it burns just fine.
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To say the Indians are looking sorry is not strong enough. It as usual they started off good, and have fallen to the pits. And all I can say is I can't wait til August, I am hoping those Dawgs have some roar :)
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@gonwk
This last shipment had the value line sticker on the wrap, but the first shipment did not. I haven't burned any of this latest shipment yet, but, I definitely will later tonight. As far as the first shipment, I have noticed NO quality difference in the older or newer batch numbers, or between value line and my premium line discs.
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Hi folks,
Teflon
Thanks for your reply.
docTY
- Thanks for your reply ... I guess I am going to chance it and get the "Valueline" and hope to get GG000077 ... they scan the best.
- By the way, I have BenQ1640 with Firmware BSQB and I run QSuite 2.1 and my Qsuite I have tried different configuration and I think it does very good when I leave the settings in the "Default" mode. BTE, I simply LOVE my 1640 ... it is the best ... I just hope it will never die on me ... since I back-up all my dvds and cds for daily use so my originals stay prestine.
- By the way, since I keep hearing and reading that BenQ burners prefer DVD+R over DVD-R ... about a month ago I ordered 100 of DVD+R 8X TY and guess what the darn media was NOT any better than DVD-R ... matter of fact they scanned worse than DVD-Rs ... and on top of that DVD+Rs are about 7Meg or so shorter ... the only saving grace they have that you can bitset them as DVD-ROM.
docTY ... BTW, I Only use TY ... forget about Verbs or any other brand ... I don't like Verbs since the ones I got on sale I tried few ... they were awful ... I guess they are not very consistent ... I sold the 100 Pack to a friend of mine that "thinks" Verbs are great.
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@deadrum33.
im not really worried about the speed i burn at im happy with the 6-8x i am burnning now have done some at 12 and 16x im just haven the problem with some movies getting the big pixels and some skipping and freezen up(i take the disc out and wipe it off some and it plays without a hitch)i do think im gonna get me a differnt burner here in the near future.
oh and you mean lets hear them BENGALS ROARING!!!!!!.....
@arniebear..
i have the hp740i lightscribe....it does a good job,i go 10 15 movies and no problem then ill get like 3 or 4 in a row and have my pixel problem and i am only useing 16x+rvebs,8x+r mij maxell,and sony mij1-8x+r. i think i might have talked to someone and them saying i might not have my drive speed set up right im not sure about that i have never messed with it mainly cause i dont know how???? like i said before getting ready to get me a new one am leaning towards the plextors right now...
REDS 3 Tribe 0 and this one belongs to the REDS!!!!!!
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23. June 2006 @ 23:18 |
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- By the way, I have BenQ1640 with Firmware BSQB and I run QSuite 2.1 and my Qsuite I have tried different configuration and I think it does very good when I leave the settings in the "Default" mode. BTE, I simply LOVE my 1640 ... it is the best ... I just hope it will never die on me ... since I back-up all my dvds and cds for daily use so my originals stay prestine.
- By the way, since I keep hearing and reading that BenQ burners prefer DVD+R over DVD-R ... about a month ago I ordered 100 of DVD+R 8X TY and guess what the darn media was NOT any better than DVD-R ... matter of fact they scanned worse than DVD-Rs ... and on top of that DVD+Rs are about 7Meg or so shorter ... the only saving grace they have that you can bitset them as DVD-ROM.
the Benq-1640 is a great drive, i have 3 of them actually, 1 of which is still brand new never used OEM from back when they were still available for purchase` :) saving that puppy for later...
for the most part, to keep everything on QSuite at "default" is just fine, i didn't change anything in mine either until i wanted to test how the SolidBurn did on learning "recognized" media as well as the unrecognized ones..so, i have it enabled for BOTH...that's just how i roll on my Benq 1650~ LOL
as to getting better scores on dvd-r media than on dvd+r, that also depends on whether or not you've let Solidburn "learn" your dvd+r media prior to burning and then scanning...(1-5 pieces is NOT sufficient to say it's been learned) :) if you were comparing a "learned" dvd-r, and in ur case, TYG01/TYG02/TYG03 for Taiyo Yudens compared to a "fresh" YUDEN000T02 that happened to be the first of a couple you had burned with your drive, it is expected the learned dvd-r scores will be higher...
i personally let Solidburn "learn" minimum 50 pieces of the same media before I FEEL confident that it has been optimized...while in actual real-world burning, 50 pieces might seem excessive for the drive to "learn" a particular MID code and media, but i usually don't put much weight on people that have only used a dozen or less of 1 particular media resulting in poor scores and blaming it on the media...or the drive for that matter...results will naturally vary from user to user~ :)
i have quite a few 99 quality scores from my VALUELINE TYG01s (4x dvd-r Taiyo Yudens)...proof positive in my experience that high scores CAN be obtained from the Valueline while a 98 is the highest i've ever gotten from the premiumline PERSONALLY :)
i also have MANY 99 scores from my fav. 8x dvd+R YUDEN000T02 that you say do not give you "as high scores compared to dvd-r" :) an example of this would be right here near the top of the page (and an explanation as to why the PIE are so high LOL) :
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/6/330512
and here is another burned all the way to the edge with LOW PIE/PIF after "Solidburn" kicked in hehehe...
anyways, it comes down to user preference, i'm so used to dvd+r format booktyped to dvd-rom, it's become rare that i burn onto dvd-r anymore, even though i still have thousands of pieces left~ LOL
good day to you all
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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24. June 2006 @ 02:35 |
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good lord, 1800 posts and climbing...this thread is getting HUGe!! thanks to all the contributors, burn on and be happy :)
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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