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Calm and Quiet, Peaceful Console Debate Thread.
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CrisKahn2
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8. December 2006 @ 17:32 |
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yeah Nintendo was never about any other media but games. Every single Nintendo console that came out never played music or anything so its no surprise. But Sony is all about that. Even the PS1 played cds...
PS3...it only does everything(that Sony allows it to)
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AFreak
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8. December 2006 @ 23:03 |
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Originally posted by Javafriek:
In my opinion the Wii shouldn't be bashed just because it doesn't play DVD's and CD's. Do you people not own a DVD player or a CD player? Sure they could have charged up to $400 and included DVD and other options but everyone already has a DVD player so why not buy the system for what it's meant to do..play games!
Hahaha, the system already has a laser diode that will read regular DVDs, they just didn't want to support because Nintendo sucks. That is the only reason i can think that they'd do it.
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8. December 2006 @ 23:52 |
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Not only that that, they had stated that the revolution(now chamged to Wii) would do that but knew they had no comp. With blueray or hd dvd. Slowly but surely nintendo will go down in to the hall of shame.
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DamonDash
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9. December 2006 @ 05:20 |
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In my opinion the Wii shouldn't be bashed just because it doesn't play DVD's and CD's. Do you people not own a DVD player or a CD player? Sure they could have charged up to $400 and included DVD and other options but everyone already has a DVD player so why not buy the system for what it's meant to do..play games!
This is why after the first of the year Wii sales will be going down because a true gamer want a system that can do a litte more than just playing games for that price.The only reason Wii is selling so good because they had more systems at launch then Sony plus the price, not because its a good system.But i promise you most christmas buyers here look for the PS3 first but find they cant get one so they get a Wii.
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Javafriek
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9. December 2006 @ 09:45 |
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This is why after the first of the year Wii sales will be going down because a true gamer want a system that can do a litte more than just playing games for that price.
So if a game console comes out that's the greatest thing since a television, let's dream for a moment, with the best gameplay and life-like graphics you're saying you wouldn't buy it if it couldn't play DVD's or CD's?! I really don't understand your logic. How many people are really watching movies or listening to music on their 360 or ps2? If that's all you want then go buy a cheap discman and a $30 DVD player.
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AFreak
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9. December 2006 @ 11:31 |
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So if a game console comes out that's the greatest thing since a television, let's dream for a moment, with the best gameplay and life-like graphics you're saying you wouldn't buy it if it couldn't play DVD's or CD's?! I really don't understand your logic. How many people are really watching movies or listening to music on their 360 or ps2? If that's all you want then go buy a cheap discman and a $30 DVD player.
Good thing Wii isn't anything like that. What he is saying, is that if it can do it with no extra cost(which it can). Why not let it? iPod plays videos and music, so are you telling me that if they decided to get rid of Video playback now that they have it, you'd just let it slide?
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oofRome
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9. December 2006 @ 16:25 |
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You're absolutely certain the Wii could play dvd's at no additional cost?
Because I am certain that this is not the case. When the dvd enhanced Wii arrives next year, it will most likely have a higher price tag because Nintendo had to hire Sonic Solutions to equip the Wii with software that allows cd and dvd playback. That's an expense right there.
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AFreak
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9. December 2006 @ 16:45 |
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They shouldn't need anything else. The Wii laser is just a regular old DVD laser. They just did not see fit to utilize playback.
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DamonDash
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9. December 2006 @ 19:33 |
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The Wii console is Nintendo's smallest home unit yet; measuring 44 mm wide, 157 mm tall, and 215.4 mm deep in the vertical orientation without the included stand (which itself measures 55.4 mm wide, 44 mm tall, and 225.6 mm deep). It is approximately the size of three standard DVD cases stacked together (approx. 4.5 cm x 15 cm x 20 cm). It also weighs 1.74kg(3.84 pounds), which makes it the lightest of the three current-gen consoles. The console can be placed either horizontally or vertically. The prefix for the numbering scheme of the system and its parts and accessories is "RVL-", after its project code name of "Revolution".[1]
The front of the console features a slot-loading media drive illuminated by a blue light which accepts both 12cm optical discs for Wii software and 8cm discs from Nintendo's prior console, the GameCube. The Disc slot light briefly illuminates when the console is turned on, when connected to WiiConnect24 and when receiving new data, such as messages, and upon having selected "Bright" or "Dim" in the "Slot Illumination" settings for WiiConnect24. The disc slot light does not stay illuminated during game play or when using other features of the Wii console. Two USB ports are located at its rear. To utilize the SD card slot behind the cover on the front of the console, a software update must be downloaded.
Nintendo has shown the console and the Wii Remote in various colors, including white, black, silver, lime green, and red,[28][29] but initially it is only available in white. At E3 2006, the Wii Remote was shown in light blue. Numerous minor changes were made to the design between its original unveiling and launch, mostly in the Nintendo branding used and button placements.
The launch Wii package includes the console, a stand to allow the console to be placed vertically, a circular clear stabilizer for the main stand, one Wii Remote, one Nunchuk attachment, one Sensor Bar, a removable stand for the sensor bar, one external main power adapter, two AA batteries, AV cables (component video and other types of cables are available separately), and (in all regions excluding Japan) a copy of Wii Sports.
A Nintendo spokesperson has confirmed that Nintendo plans to release a version of the console with DVD-Video playback capabilities in Japan, but that release in other territories is not currently planned. This corroborates an earlier press release by digital media company Sonic Solutions, stating that Nintendo had chosen their CinePlayer CE DVD Navigator software engine to provide this functionality. Even though software will be used to enable DVD-Video functionality, it apparently "requires more than a firmware upgrade" and cannot therefore be implemented through the WiiConnect24 network.
A Nintendo spokesperson has confirmed that Nintendo plans to release a version of the console with DVD-Video playback capabilities in Japan, but that release in other territories is not currently planned. This corroborates an earlier press release by digital media company Sonic Solutions, stating that Nintendo had chosen their CinePlayer CE DVD Navigator software engine to provide this functionality. Even though software will be used to enable DVD-Video functionality, it apparently "requires more than a firmware upgrade" and cannot therefore be implemented through the WiiConnect24 network
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii
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oofRome
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9. December 2006 @ 20:08 |
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Thank you, DamonDash.
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10. December 2006 @ 05:43 |
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man...that stinks... i really wanted a copy of wii sports...but noooo...not in japan. geezz....whats soo bad about releasing that with the wii in japan, when every other freaggin place is getting it...
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10. December 2006 @ 06:09 |
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Originally posted by AFreak:
They shouldn't need anything else. The Wii laser is just a regular old DVD laser. They just did not see fit to utilize playback.
is more profitable for them to just come up with a new wii then to have us send ours in for dvd laser tweekin.. but freak is right is just weather u want to open urs and tweek it urself but it could definaly be done
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11. December 2006 @ 06:20 |
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is just weather u want to open urs and tweek it urself but it could definaly be done
Well if that can be done wouldn't it save you some money.
I think that to some (maybe most) it doesn't matter. But it still remains as a matter of principle. 'If it can why restrict it'. In my room i have a stand alone dvd player, my pc has a dvd burner and a dvd-rom drive, my laptop has a dvd burner, I have my ps2 and my xbox, I also will be getting a ps3, so there is no shortage of dvd playback
BUT i feel very disappointed that when i get my wii it wont be able to do that. Not that i would use it for that purpose but geez just knowing that it can helps you to feel better about buying it.
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11. December 2006 @ 06:47 |
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i agree 100%
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emachine
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11. December 2006 @ 16:54 |
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If they could easily enable dvd playback they would...
DO YOU THINK THEY ARE RETARDED? If they could do something that would boost sales for free don't you think they would.
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AFreak
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11. December 2006 @ 21:32 |
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Originally posted by emachine:
If they could easily enable dvd playback they would...
DO YOU THINK THEY ARE RETARDED? If they could do something that would boost sales for free don't you think they would.
Yes, I do. That is why I am backing Sony.
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12. December 2006 @ 07:29 |
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I agree that if Nintendo had the option of making the wii dvd compatible, they should have. And maybe I'm just uninformed, but I don't see any reason for why they couldn't have.
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12. December 2006 @ 07:59 |
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would u pay 500 dollards for the wii or go with sonys blu ray for the same price? theres ur answer
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oofRome
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12. December 2006 @ 11:44 |
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Originally posted by emachine:
If they could easily enable dvd playback they would...
DO YOU THINK THEY ARE RETARDED? If they could do something that would boost sales for free don't you think they would.
Agreed. Like I said earlier, if it was so easy, than why would Nintendo have to hire another company to make it possible? It just doesn't make sense any way you look at it. If Nintendo, or any company, was managed that poorly, then they wouldn't be in business. "Because Nintendo sucks" isn't the answer, and anyone capable of logical thought knows there is more to the issue than that.
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12. December 2006 @ 16:51 |
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Originally posted by 305Graph:
would u pay 500 dollars for the wii or go with sonys blu ray for the same price? theres ur answer
That's outrageous!! Ok we're arguing the same point but what an exaggeration It wouldn't cost anywhere close to that much.
Don't mistake me for a nintendo hater based on what I'm about to say. I'll be getting a wii before i get ps3. Have all their consoles and i love there games and the technologies they use. However, I don't like how they do certain things.
Consider this: The gamecube have a dvd drive with the same diode as a regular dvd player, yet the chose only to release a version capable of playing dvd in japan only. Had they invested in the future and simple worked on that technology with the cube then it would have been a hell of alot cheaper on them now to get dvd play out of the wii and wouldn't have to pay anyone to do it now.
Another point: you have guys doing more complex things in there bed rooms so they must have been able to find and hire two guys that could have done it. It's all software the hardware is all there already.
So yeah when it comes to media i'm sure everyone knows that nintendo sucks and drops the ball like it's a hot potato *cough*N64*cough*
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12. December 2006 @ 20:49 |
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u know what i meant
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13. December 2006 @ 00:23 |
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nintendo and sony r totally different
so the consoles shouldn't be compare, its like comparing the IQ of a man to the one of a mouse or the strenth of a lion to the one of a cat. most people who r gonna buy the wii r gamers who r fan of nintendo's pass console and titles, without the capability to play the most basic (dvd's and music cd) they r gonna gonna lose out to the gamers of the ather consoles (sony and microsoft) and new gamers. and there new console isn't gonna be much benefit to gamers who r lazy like me.
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13. December 2006 @ 01:17 |
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i still don't think a company should call a souped up gamecube nextgen
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janrocks
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13. December 2006 @ 01:18 |
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There seems to be a fundamental point being missed here. It's a games console. If tendo wanted to make it into a cd and dvd player they could both cheaply and easily. Where is the need for those functions? With a dvd player people expect (nay..demand) a remote and full menu features. These can be had from any off the shelf $20 dvd player. The multimedia market is not now, and never has been tendo's target audience.. DVD playing capabilities need certain licences for manufacturers, and most children (tendo's target customers) don't play many dvd's..they want to play games..
Down to price. I think they have got it about right as a manufacturing strategy..why build an all singing all dancing console (after all..when you spend $300 on a phone you don't expect it to play dvd's and cd's..or make toast!) and then price it above the means of the target customers.
My only reason for not getting an attractively priced wii is because I never really liked the games tendo sell.. Too childish for me, but then again, I'm an adult..and not in the target consumer group.
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13. December 2006 @ 02:04 |
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Originally posted by janrocks:
There seems to be a fundamental point being missed here. It's a games console. If tendo wanted to make it into a cd and dvd player they could both cheaply and easily. Where is the need for those functions? With a dvd player people expect (nay..demand) a remote and full menu features. These can be had from any off the shelf $20 dvd player. The multimedia market is not now, and never has been tendo's target audience.. DVD playing capabilities need certain licences for manufacturers, and most children (tendo's target customers) don't play many dvd's..they want to play games..
Down to price. I think they have got it about right as a manufacturing strategy..why build an all singing all dancing console (after all..when you spend $300 on a phone you don't expect it to play dvd's and cd's..or make toast!) and then price it above the means of the target customers.
My only reason for not getting an attractively priced wii is because I never really liked the games tendo sell.. Too childish for me, but then again, I'm an adult..and not in the target consumer group.
lol by aiming at a younger consumer they r limiting there costumers and thats stupid, why would sum1 built a next-generation console just for the younger gamers it just stupid.
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after all..when you spend $300 on a phone you don't expect it to play dvd's and cd's..or make toast!)
NO, but i do expect it to have bluetooth,
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