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Slow Bit Torrent downloads? Router configuration tips.
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FarooqMe
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4. January 2005 @ 14:26 |
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Hi there, I know I posted that my connection was fine and working but now it seems to have messed up. If someone could help me out here, it'd be much appreciated.
I have a Linksys WRT54GS wireless router, and I have wireless internet at like 54.0 Mbps. I'm using Windows XP, SP 1 (I haven't upgraded to SP2), and until a few days ago I was using Bit Tornado to download stuff.
Last week, I reformatted my computer, but before then, my torrents were downloading pretty fast and I was getting decent speeds. Then after I reformatted my computer, my torrent speeds using Bit Tornado went down to like 0-10kb. So I tried the solutions posted on this board but nothing worked.
So yesterday I switched to Azureus and found that my download speeds increased dramatically to around 25-35kb and sometimes even higher when there were more seeds and peers. I left the computer on over night so that it could continue downloading.
At this point I'd had port 50081 forwarded and all firewalls turned off (I didn't do as Camdog suggested in the first post since it only slowed down my speed). I had the upload capped at 11KB/s. The NAT tests came back fine, the connection checker said it could connect me perfectly and I was getting a happy smily face, and I didn't have a static IP.
When I woke up in the morning, the download rate had virtually stopped. So I waited for a bit, then did a connection check again and the checker said "Error (NAT check failed. Check for firewalls and port forwarding)"
I then came back onto these forums and tried every solution. I tried turning on the firewall and doing what Camdog suggested in the first post, I tried setting up a static IP using the guide posted on http://www.portforward.com/networking/static-xp.htm (I could still connect to the net after setting up a static IP), still didn't download, so then I went onto http://www.portforward.com/cportsnotes/azureus/azureus22.htm and followed the guide to sorting out Azureus. I tried changing the port from 50081 to 6881 and to 31381, and running the NAT test, but everytime I ran it said I'd failed. I tried going to Shields UP!!! and seeing whether my ports were opened or stealed or closed, and for every port it'd come up with stealthed even if that port was forwarded on my router.
I tried resetting my router, uninstalling and re-installing Azureus, restarting my computer, but nothing works, and it still says I need to check for firewalls or port forwarding. I tried running the configuration wizard on Azureus, but for every port I try, it says
Testing port 6881 ... Unable to test because listening port is already
in use. Please stop all active torrents and restart Azureus.
Then run this test again.
I do what it says, but it still always comes up with those words, for every port I try. After a minute or two, a small pop will appear in the bottom right hand corner of my screen saying
Error
Failed to establish listen on port 6881 (or whatever my port is at that moment).
Check that other applications aren't already using this port.
Also check for another copy of Azureus running.
So I'm completly stuck. What's really weird is that about 16 hours ago, it was running perfectly, and now it's not downloading anything at all.
Any thing I've missed or done wrong? Any help would be really appreciated.
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xnd
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4. January 2005 @ 15:18 |
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HELP
My download speeds were once into the 60-100kb range but i shutdown my computer and they slowed down to 1-20kb. I have tried everything on this forum and nothing helps.
I have a westell wirespeed 6100 modem from bellsouth
A netgear wgr614 router and a netgear wgr311 wireless card. I have disabled all my firewalls and my dl speeds never increase. I HAVE GMAIL INVITES FOR ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME FIX THIS.
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Stinky_1
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5. January 2005 @ 05:33 |
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I just did this little trick. My router must be the exact same one coz it was the exact same setup.
Anyway my speeds were anywhere from 0 to a max of 19. Now my slowest one (Which was 0 before) is now at 21, and my fastest one right now is up to 44 and climbing.
Its great! A download that was reported to take about 100 hours is now up to 10 hours. I dont mind waiting that long compared to what it was at before.
BTW: I also shut off my windows firewall.
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djmalaka
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5. January 2005 @ 12:02 |
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What a lot of these posts dont get into is changing IP's. Ater going to http://www.portforward.com/networking/static-xp.htm , I followed the instructions for creating a static IP address. The weird thing though; to determine my current IP i typed ipconfig /all in command, but it sayed a different IP than what my routers page was telling me.(im not confusing this with my default gateway,I know the dif :)
When I went to my routers page it told me 83.234.256.xxx and ipconfig told me 10.0.x.x
When I tryed to set up a static IP with the 1 my router gave me nothing, then I used the 10.0.x.x one I had connection.
So now that I had a static connection I went to my routers page to forward the ports to this static IP. (6881-6889 TCP)
I started a download with BT and did a NAT chech and port check, and everything worked WOW I was so happy DL speed went up to 50kb/s.(I have DSL 512k)
But now when I download for a while my connection will just drop, and I wont have connectivity until i restart my router. Any experts to help me please?
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DDX9X
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8. January 2005 @ 15:32 |
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Im back, just gatta say Thanks Alot CrishChun u really really helped, thanks alot man, it worked thanks to u and ur advise, i no average 280-320kbs, thanks man
CyaNidE
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Sterno
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10. January 2005 @ 18:00 |
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Well I have now tried just about everyting. I have forwarded all my ports and changed them and I get green smileys for torrents that are healthy. My internet connection gave me this when I ran a test:
Communications 3 megabits per second
Storage 370.7 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 2.8 seconds
Subjective rating Awesome
My downloads never seem to exceed 20/kbs and are almost always under 10. I have set azureus up the way that many have suggested and still nothing help. I also uninstalled zonealarm but it didnt seem to help at all.
The only thing that I have noticed that is funny is that when azureus loads it shows that there are many more seeds and peers, when I begin to download the number drops dramtically and the total number disappears (the ones in brackets) and it only shows me the amount I am connected to.
I am downloading a torrent right now that has a green smiley with 10 seeds, 54 leechers and my speed is only 12 kbs. Anyone have any suggestions?
Winxp w/o sp2
runnig protowall
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13rent
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11. January 2005 @ 03:54 |
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I have had to open ports for many different reasons on my lynksis router. To host games on Warcraft 3 and such.
While on mIRC I had to open ports to allow me to serve files. While doing this I noticed that my Torrent downloads acted differently. I use ABC client and all the torrent files went from golden to green/blue. Which means they are going faster and such.
So I might try opening these ports, but never leave ports enabled all the time. I always close them after Downloads...secruity precaution.
<3 Brent :)
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spyrl
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12. January 2005 @ 10:23 |
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not sure if this will help, but i agree wil drchips, i think the reason your torrents speed up when you open the port is because the upload is increased therefore as the download rate is based on the upload rate naturally the download rate would increase. but also if you download with ports secure, it will download and it will start slow but it will speed up and you can reach high download rates.
unblocking the ports opens you up to hackers etc .. so it is not advised unless you are sure you will not be atttacked, take it from you there is always a chace you will be hacked, so don't run the risk it is not worth it.
but yes, drchips, his points are 100% valid and should be respected.
Broknspyrl
Stay safe,
Broknspyrl
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rocarmy
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12. January 2005 @ 13:56 |
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camdog I have a question about a post you submitted for bittorrent port opening.
8) In Name or IP address of the computer hosting this service on your network," type your ip address "
Q: Am I suppose to enter my IP address or the default gateway. I'm running windows xp with verizon dsl.
youngvito
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nickieee
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14. January 2005 @ 08:46 |
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Hi
thanks for the post. I followed all the steps about port forwarding but it keeps coming up with the message error found in line and there is summat about port map and i cant see any reference to this in your guide?
cheers in advance
Kie
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Xeno16
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16. January 2005 @ 09:22 |
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hey, im getting really slow bittorrent speeds and being inept with computers cannot change my ports. If anyone has the time or patience to help me, it would be very greatly appreciated. Thank You.
-Xeno
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winter37
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22. January 2005 @ 14:29 |
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man-you guys are ding dongs:
1. Altering your port settings will only DIRECT INCOMING requests to your box. All outgoing requests are by default unblocked!
2. If your downloads are slow, it's because the connections everywhere else are slow, there are not enough seeds, etcetera.
3. And by the way: if you have a router, turn OFF OFF OFF stoopid XP firewall. All it does is use CPU time. Also, delete your firewall software. JUNK! It's a waste of CPU time. What did you buy a router/firewall for if you use software!? Hardware firewalls do it by filtering electronic signal. Software firewalls accept ALL data, then caches it, then processes it (processes can be worked around!).
4. If you have dialup, don't P2P-it slows down MY downloads!
5. Snoops can't snoop if you share an internet connection because of NAT (network address translation) which is the basic structure of Sharing an internet connection. Exception: directing port requests to your box! When you open your ports on your router, you are opening ports to incoming requests, and you are allowing snoops to snoop your junk. The only exception on an open port snoop is if you have a service taking requests from a port (ie a web server listening on port 80).
Credit: 5 yrs sys admin / network manager
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Xeno16
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23. January 2005 @ 11:24 |
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alrite, srry m8. im not very learned in these kinda things. im trying to be though, so if you have any Helpful suggestions, feel free to post. tnx
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Xeno16
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23. January 2005 @ 11:30 |
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lol, sorry again m8, i didnt mean for it to come out like im being an asshole. u did help, kinda. im just really dumb lol, and i need like laymans terms i think they're called. and i was sayin that would be a big help. srry again. later
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2Maestro
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23. January 2005 @ 16:30 |
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I use Azureus 2.2.0.2 and Iv'e tried everything, but still get d/l speeds of 15kbs if lucky. Ive fowarded ports 6881-6999 on my router, but still nothing. Ive tried disabling the WinXP firewall, but still nothing. I got DSL. I dont know what the the speed of my line is but i think its good. PLEASE I would die for those magical 200kbs numbers.
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winter37
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24. January 2005 @ 07:08 |
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1st: I know you're not being mean; I'm not either. If we can't poke at each other, what do we have?
2nd: get on one of those speed test sites: like http://www.dslreports.com/stest
3rd: look at the results and that's what you can expect TOTAL from your connection. Take into account: Servers get bogged down often from porn traffic and viruses (seriously, these are the two biggest bandwidth eaters). People all over the world have viruses, and snoopers, and all sorts of useless junk running on their computers and transmitting data all the time. So never cheer when you hear someone has hacked something. Never get excited about that big boobed lady on the ad. Never support advertisements by not ever clicking on them.
4th: Understand the number you saw does not reflect your connection to your stinger (stinger is a DSL client hub the telco uses to connect you to their server [the ISP]). A stinger connection is what the telco tests your line with. If you pay for 1.5dl 768ul, then the stinger is set to give you that much speed between it and you. That doesn't mean it won't get bogged down between it and the ISP. The smaller or bigger your community, the better your connection will be because the telco will either not have enough subscribers to eat up the bandwidth, or they will have lots of money and thus lots of BIG connections. This is #1 factor in speed.
5th: Most ISPs provide a much slower upload than download. Typical Super Bargain FULL!! DSL!! service from Monopolizing Ripe Off Telco is **1.5MBps dl and 256KBps ul. Look at the "B" in MBps and KBps. A capitol B means bits while a lowercase b means bytes. This is the ruse of the telco. your connection is slower than you think. (there are 8 bits in a bite) Coupled to that, read your contract (carefully) and you will find vague references to controlling traffic between you and your ISP. This means they will limit your sustained speed on a port to balance it with all the other trafic they have to deal with. LAYMAN: Cops are pulling over your data, giving it a ticket, then sending it off at 25mph on the freeway. Then your data clogs the freeway and some wrecks occur, then data has to be resent. (That would be data colision in net nerd terms and it happens a lot on servers) Getting back to the point: Most of you guys don't know how to shop for an internet connection or don't have the money to get what you need. I have stand alone DSL (fastest available from telco here notwithstanding a $90 bill from the cable company for 3MBps dl and 500KBs ul with them) which gives me 1.5MBps dl and 1MBps ul. Notice how much ul room I have! 4 times normal and it only costs $37 a month for the whole shabang (phone bill). That's cheaper than anything else around me.
6th: Most people don't know how to set parameters of P2P programs properly, so they don't LET you connect faster. Most P2P apps ul at a max of 20K and leave the dl speeds open. BUT Most P2P apps only let you dl what you share, so forget about downloading fast if you can't upload fast (parameters in app or your mean ISP).
7th: the FIX: make your router block ALL incoming requests. Like I said before, it won't help (i'll explain later why). And if your connection sucks: Call your ISP and ask them what the cheapest ISP they offer is going for: remember, they get commission so they want to sell you MSN or some crap. Example: I call my telco Qwest:
Me: Hi, I want the fastest DSL you have!
Qwest: Okay, without phone service that's standalone DSL.
M: How fast?
Q: 1.5 up 1M down.
M: What's the cheapest ISP, like just your Qwest server right?
Q: Yes sir but we also have MSN which offers you...
M: Shut Up and just give me a fast/cheap connection.
Q: Yes sir...
See how you handle that! If they offer you an ISP that requires software to connect, Just Say No! A DSL line is a link- a cable, not a piece of connection software. Chances are, you will save yourself money because MSN charges 21.99/mo while qwest charges 16.99 for the same service!
8th: Don't get a damn Linksys router. Get a Netgear or better (if you can afford a CISCO) so it will last and not break or send data to the wrong computer and be more programmable! My friends have thrown away their Linksys router more times than I fart in a week. My Netgear is still chuggin along-and I run a server from my home (ie lots of traffic=lots of heat, but my router hasn't melted yet).
9th: NEVER use a software firewall. All it does is eat your CPU and RAM. That's why you got a router, right!
10th: A good P2P program will send out little bloops looking for a connection. When it finds one, it will lock that connection into a portal running through the firewall. That's how you get incoming connections (and viruses) through a firewall. If the app is a good one, it will be discriminate and only make good, strong connections. If the app is crappy, it will lose the connection and leave portals open for those viruses. Use a good app like ABC torrent client. That guy can program! Those dropped connections are what really slow you down (if it happens like 3 times a second:: the bloops happen like 10 time a second).
Summary:
Get yourself a faster and cheaper connection if you need and can afford.
Understand traffic always sucks because of ads, viruses, porn, and idiots. Never click on ads so maybe they can go away a little.
Get a good router if you can. (I promise you will notice a difference!)
Get a good P2P app and set it up right. (ABC comes default for super fast connections for the layman)
Last: Understand that most people have crappy connections and since torrent is based on your + thier connection, if one of them sucks, you're both out of luck.
PS: read more. No one taught me this stuff. I taught myself by reading everything I could get my hands on about computers.
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winter37
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24. January 2005 @ 07:12 |
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Oh: if one file is downloading slowly, download more than one at a time. Your ISP uses addative limits: a 15K dl + a 50K dl is still only 65K of your 1.5M allowed (take into account traffic still).
Don't forget: Turn off XP firewall and delete any software firewalls you have. Block ALL on your router's incoming, and use a good P2P app. The rest is up to servers and peer connection speeds.
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winter37
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24. January 2005 @ 07:24 |
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AND: for STERNO:
get SP2 you moron! Updates protect you from viruses because microsoft programmers can't program worth a crap to begin with. You probably have a number of viruses equal to the number of days you've gone without SP2.
EVERYONE: try Fedora. It's better than XP and it's FREE!
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rocarmy
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25. January 2005 @ 04:24 |
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Winter37, Is it okay to have a virus program like norton antivirus 2005 running on my xp service pack 2. It seems to work pretty good. just wondering.
P.S. Thanx for the posts I've already learned so much from what you've already posted and am very glad I'm a subscriber to afterdawn.
youngvito
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bmaniac
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25. January 2005 @ 23:05 |
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HELP! i have a smc 7004abr and ive diasbled the firewall already but it still says stealth mode! ive disabled windows firewall too! HELP PLZ SAVE ME FROM THE LAGZORZ MONSTER!
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winter37
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26. January 2005 @ 11:21 |
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Antivirus software is for people who run random programs they download, check "enable java" in their email, and go to porn sites. If you do any of these, keep antivirus. If you think you can run a tight ship, throw the dead weight off the boat. Also, never run antivirus in the background. Maybe run it under your command once or twice a week, but in the background it will eat up between 20-80% of your available CPU usage.
As for the other guy: what is an smc 7000sbr with stealth mode? [other than obviously a router] -Your router will have a descent firewall which should be setup [by default] to accept all outgoing and reject all incoming requests. This is all you need to do. Kudos for rejecting windows fart wall.
Oh-and learn to use msconfig -it will help you see antivirus software is a rip off and useless. If you have no idea how to use msconfig properly, google it and learn. If you're still scared, download Windows Startup Inspector. If you can't find it, let me know.
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MaestroD
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27. January 2005 @ 19:21 |
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HOW TO TURN $6 INTO $6,000!!!!!!
READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE!
My mother's ashamed she ever squirted me out.
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dmb5150
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27. January 2005 @ 22:19 |
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I am using bit tornado. I have my ports forwarded to 10000-10010. As said by portforwarding.com I am using a Netgear MR814 router. Still only downloading at 10-30 KBs.... Any help would be great. XP firewall is turned off.
Thanks and I hope someone can help!
Dave
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Taintedl
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28. January 2005 @ 03:57 |
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I need your help in configuring Azereus:
I have a cable 640kbps/128Kbps connection and also have Java and Azureus installed with the following conf:
Incoming TCP listen port = 55301
Max global upload speed=5KB/s
Max global download speed=unlimited
Max upload slots per torrent=5
Max connections per torrent=50
Max connections globally=500
UDP tracker client protocol NOT ENABLE
UPnP NOT ENABLE
Autospeed ENABLE
Tracker on HTTP port NOT ENABLE
Tracker on HTTPS port NOT ENABLE
Max simultaneous downloads=2
Max active torrents=3
On my Linksys Wireless B Broadband Router BEFW11S4 v4, I forwarded the port 55301 TCP to Internal IP address 192.168.1.72 (The IP of the Intel Pro/100 VE Network Adapter connected to the router)
My Windows XPsp2 Firewall is ON, with the following exceptions:
Azureus.exe
Javaw.exe
Azureus TCP port 55301
With this configurations I can get 1.5-2 Kb/s download speed and 12-15 Kb/s upload speed. What may be wrong? Several guys get 125 Kb/s download speed, and more.
Can someone help?
Tks
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winter37
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28. January 2005 @ 05:55 |
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dmb, use your scroll button and read my posts on this page.
taint, turn off port forewarding, turn off xp fartwall, and read my posts on this page. also, since your upload ceiling is low, your download ceiling will be capped below 640 (again, read my previous posts).
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