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naossoan
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20. March 2008 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Yeah original SSBB doesn't work on wiikey at this time.

You don't say what region your Wii is but in any case update online to the latest version 3.2 before doing anything. Wiikey - 1.9g is the latest version and the wiikey site is gone. Don't ask what's gonna happen about that cos nobody knows.

If you have a JAP or PAL Wii you might wanna strip out the firmware update before playing. This can be done using a ppf that is available all over - If you are downloading the game then I'm sure you can find that yourself. The game will still update your system but only with the necessary code required to play SSBB.

Online play is no problem if you can get the game to run. I can on my wiikey but loads can't. Memorex seems to be the most successful media from what I read but I myself have the game running with Aone and Verbatim.
I'm in Canada so I have a north american Wii. Thanks for the info, I gotta go pickup some DL DVD's to see if I can get this to work.
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naossoan
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20. March 2008 @ 20:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well good news and bad news. I burnt the disc with IMGBURN, set the layer like the guide I found said to do. Game loads up just fine and dandy. I get a read error during the initial cinematic, so I skip it.

I was playing adventure mode and I beat the first mission, then it went to a cutscene that I didn't seem to be able to skip, and i got a read error again. so I'm not sure. I'll give it another try but I may have to re-burn it. Not sure.
greengnu
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20. March 2008 @ 22:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had that problem too, tried boosting my laser (worked once, was able to play story mode, with all cinematics) but after i re-assembled my Wii... no dice. I am using Fujifilm DVD+DL media... only kind i could find, but i am gonna try some Memorex if i can find some soon
naossoan
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20. March 2008 @ 22:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I was busy doing other things for a while then I tried loading the game up again.

Turned the Wii on, it recognizes it in the Wii main screen. I click to load it, it says Loading... Goes to a white screen for a second, then pops up with the green screen saying it's unable to read the disc.

So it worked the first time, then never again. I don't get it.

The instructions say:

Open IMGBURN, select to write iso to DVD, select DVD9, click in TOOLS, SETTINGS->Write->Layer Break->User specified and type 2084960. Burn the DVD.

I did everything except "Select DVD9" as I could not find any option that said this...So maybe it's that? I don't know.

I got Verbatim 10 pack of 2.4x DVD+R DL discs. I've used Verbatim discs on most of my single DVD games and I haven't had any issues. I've had the odd read error here or there, but the next time I loaded, it would work fine. This is the only time that it hasn't.
wiigame
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20. March 2008 @ 22:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So has anyone tried the new update that gives the wii shop channel wiiware? I was wondering if it effects the wii in any way. =] THANX
juniR
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20. March 2008 @ 22:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ naossoan ...Actually - the main discussion about SSBB is in another thread - you might wanna move over to that as this one is for general wii & wiikey - the problems you are having with ssbb aren't really a wiikey issue as the backup is known to work with it.

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20. March 2008 @ 23:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NOTE: New update just came out for the Wii
but do not fear. this update will not cause any problems with your wiikey or wii. so you may update with no worries
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20. March 2008 @ 23:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes, it's a minor update to the wii shop channel. it's a update for wiiware.

ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure

got a whole lot more to list . . .
pspmike
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21. March 2008 @ 00:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm convinced at this point that the 3.2 update did in fact contain some type of code which renders your mod chip to fail. At Nintendo own website on non-modded Wii consoles they have a forum just for failing disc reads due to SSBB. They - Nintendo - claim that the lense gets dirty and requires some type of professional cleaning that can only be performed by them. Nonsense! It's all just to coincidental that only now that Wiikey or clones are failing.
ward646
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21. March 2008 @ 00:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wiikey chips fail because the wiikey is flawed and it has issues with dual layer originals...

The issue with dual layers on the wii itself, well, Nintendo say its dust, others say Nintendo didn't set the potentiometer of a whole lot of wiis correctly when they were manufactured....

So when they are getting 'cleaned' they are really getting adjusted...

They didn't target the wiikey, the game is simply so huge it HAD to go on a dual layer which the wiikey just happens to not be able to handle correctly.

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pspmike
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21. March 2008 @ 01:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wiikey was supposed to have been the better mod chip I remember everyone claiming.
I still think Nintendo has a hand in this via the recent 3.2 update.

Doesn't it strange that so many people just recently are having problems?

My Wii up until the 3.2 update was able to play all back ups and the more recent JPN release of SSBB with out any problems. Then flash right after the update everything breaks and people just chalk it up to the Wiikey being faulty. But yet previously it worked when other mod chips did not. I find this very strange.

So if I understand correctly, most likely if my Wii (ntsc-u) with a Wiikey stops reading any form of dvd + or - media and I am unable to recover via the recovery disc, then the chip has failed? So then I wonder if the chip has failed would I then be able to play an original Wii game, since the Wii doesn't now register the chip. I need to test this theory. I do know that original GC discs read fine.

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trashyjun
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21. March 2008 @ 02:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a PAL Wii on WiiKey.

It got semi-bricked with Mario Strikers Charged NTSC. Can't access Wii Settings anymore.

I'm intending to use a Super Mario Galaxy PAL backup to fix my semi-bricked problem. After reading EXCELLENT guide by Rafadawn, I have just a simple question before following the steps.

The Steps say that I have to install the update with the SMG game BEFORE I update my Wiikey with 1.9g?

Issit before or after? Issit:
Step 1: Update Wiikey firmware to 1.9g
Step 2: Update Wii firmware with SMG

OR

Step 1: Update Wii firmware with SMG
Step 2: Update Wiikey firmware to 1.9g?

I just wanna make sure I read the steps correctly before I screw up majorly.

Thanks in advance!
juniR
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21. March 2008 @ 07:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by pspmike:
Wiikey was supposed to have been the better mod chip I remember everyone claiming.
Yeah and it was at the time. Of that generation of chips it still is imho and I've had no probs with mine (I love the fact that I can play an imported version of SSBB whether it's a backup or not). However, the introduction of dual layer combined with the lack of presence from anyone of the wiikey team who might be able to shed light on future development and fixes means that the wiikey is at a standstill with owners living in hope. Meanwhile other chips have been developed which supercede the wiikey by a stretch which is what you would expect. It's not the first time ppl have bought something only to see it as surplus later on. I'd like to think wiikey support continues but I'm not holding my breath - especially over something that was realatively inexpensive. If I have to swap mine it'll be for the reason I put my wiikey in, in the first place - to continue saving money ;)
ward646
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21. March 2008 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If your wiikey doesn't boot any backup anymore it SHOULD boot originals... Everyone gets wii sports, throw it in ;)

And again, I have to say that 'all of these problems' are down to dual layer discs, burned or originals, many wii's just do not seem to handle them very well at all.

I ALWAYS update my wii as soon as an update comes out (I figure if they beat, well it was a fun game while it lasted) and I have never had one single issue ever, EXCEPT with SSBB and the movies skipping out.
cherrin
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21. March 2008 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by naossoan:
Well, I was busy doing other things for a while then I tried loading the game up again.

Turned the Wii on, it recognizes it in the Wii main screen. I click to load it, it says Loading... Goes to a white screen for a second, then pops up with the green screen saying it's unable to read the disc.

So it worked the first time, then never again. I don't get it.

The instructions say:

Open IMGBURN, select to write iso to DVD, select DVD9, click in TOOLS, SETTINGS->Write->Layer Break->User specified and type 2084960. Burn the DVD.

I did everything except "Select DVD9" as I could not find any option that said this...So maybe it's that? I don't know.

I got Verbatim 10 pack of 2.4x DVD+R DL discs. I've used Verbatim discs on most of my single DVD games and I haven't had any issues. I've had the odd read error here or there, but the next time I loaded, it would work fine. This is the only time that it hasn't.

Originally posted by naossoan:
Well good news and bad news. I burnt the disc with IMGBURN, set the layer like the guide I found said to do. Game loads up just fine and dandy. I get a read error during the initial cinematic, so I skip it.

I was playing adventure mode and I beat the first mission, then it went to a cutscene that I didn't seem to be able to skip, and i got a read error again. so I'm not sure. I'll give it another try but I may have to re-burn it. Not sure.
I had encountered both of these issues with my first attempt, so I reburnt the DL DVD as was suggested by a few other members and it has worked flawless for me since. I was getting upset with the first mission in the SSE ii would complete it and then it would go to unable to read disk, but after re-burning the DVD it worked just fine.The same for the getting past the initial boot screen and the white screen and then the green "could not read disk screen."

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cherrin
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21. March 2008 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ward646:
Wiikey chips fail because the wiikey is flawed and it has issues with dual layer originals...

The issue with dual layers on the wii itself, well, Nintendo say its dust, others say Nintendo didn't set the potentiometer of a whole lot of wiis correctly when they were manufactured....

So when they are getting 'cleaned' they are really getting adjusted...

They didn't target the wiikey, the game is simply so huge it HAD to go on a dual layer which the wiikey just happens to not be able to handle correctly.
Maybe I'm missing something but there has to be something with Nintendo's write protection on the disk because as far as DL's are concerned, if you burn a DL DVD to play SSBB on it works flawlessly for my WiiKey.
juniR
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21. March 2008 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cherrin:
Maybe I'm missing something but there has to be something with Nintendo's write protection on the disk because as far as DL's are concerned, if you burn a DL DVD to play SSBB on it works flawlessly for my WiiKey.
Yeah and so your point is?
ward646
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21. March 2008 @ 13:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cherrin:

Maybe I'm missing something but there has to be something with Nintendo's write protection on the disk because as far as DL's are concerned, if you burn a DL DVD to play SSBB on it works flawlessly for my WiiKey.
Media used, the burner used, the speed you burnt the game, the wii itself... Pick one, because it could be any of those & probably more.

Also, note that its only the movies that give my wii issues, the game itself (stages etc etc) run perfectly.

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alpha22
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21. March 2008 @ 14:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

Sorry about bothering everyone, but as usual I rushed into things, installed my Wiikey (no problems there), and as soon as I did that, being my idiot self, ran the 1.9g update as instructed in the beginning of this thread. Everything went fine. I then turned region override using a GCOS 1.3 config disc. Then I realised that I had forgotten to update my Wii console to 3.2.

I'm just wondering if by doing that, I have done something wrong. Will it affect my Wii or Wiikey?

Btw, I skim-read the last 40-odd pages of the thread, and havent seen anyone that has done the same as me. If they have, could you please tell me which page of the thread it is so I can go back and re-read it.

Thanks : )
juniR
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21. March 2008 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No just go to 3.2 now ;)
Lchiwawa
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21. March 2008 @ 15:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think i only need 2 things cleared up before i get started with this whole process.

1) am i right to believe that gcos discs can ONLY be used with the gc controller? will using the wii's reset button to move around and select things not work with these discs? i ask because i don't want to waste dvds if they won't work for me.


2) the order in which to use the discs if it even matters. since i'm still using version 3.1 and i remember reading that these consoles at this firmware had a hard time reading the config discs so the hacked version of the disc needed to be introduced, so the order might be different for me. though i'm not sure if it was everyone experiencing this problem or just a select few. anyway, is the following order correct:

1. the hacked 3.1 config disc
2. the regular 3.1 config disc to turn region override on
3. the 1.9b update (don't care for 1.9g)
4. hacked 3.1
5. regular 3.1 to change the region override back on

and then everything should be running smoothly? correct me if i'm wrong.
rafadawn
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21. March 2008 @ 15:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1) Yes.

2) It all depends. The only way to know for sure is to try. I would start with the padded ones and go from there.

3) 1.9g is safe and (with the 3.2 firmware) will play all backups from your Wii's region.

Originally posted by Lchiwawa:
i think i only need 2 things cleared up before i get started with this whole process.

1) am i right to believe that gcos discs can ONLY be used with the gc controller? will using the wii's reset button to move around and select things not work with these discs? i ask because i don't want to waste dvds if they won't work for me.


2) the order in which to use the discs if it even matters. since i'm still using version 3.1 and i remember reading that these consoles at this firmware had a hard time reading the config discs so the hacked version of the disc needed to be introduced, so the order might be different for me. though i'm not sure if it was everyone experiencing this problem or just a select few. anyway, is the following order correct:

1. the hacked 3.1 config disc
2. the regular 3.1 config disc to turn region override on
3. the 1.9b update (don't care for 1.9g)
4. hacked 3.1
5. regular 3.1 to change the region override back on

and then everything should be running smoothly? correct me if i'm wrong.


Where's the party?!?
dhess83
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21. March 2008 @ 23:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So let me ask one of you experts a question:

My Wii is 3.1u.

My WiiKey is 1.9g.

I have cleaned the lense of my Wii.

I can run other games, no problem.

I have burned DVD9 versions of Brawl using imgburn, both with and without layerbreak set.


IF I Have done all of these things, everything should work, according to other readers. Why then does brawl want to keep crashing when I try to load subspace? This is on a backed up copy of the game, not the retail. I'm assuming this is a Dual Layer problem, but I don't know for sure.

I've burned using DVD+DL, is that a problem? Some people are saying DVD-DL.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. March 2008 @ 13:17

CIoaked
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22. March 2008 @ 01:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry ahead of time if this is a repeat, I didn't find it but I know someone had to ask at one point.

My Wii is 3.1 (US)

My WiiKey is 1.9g

How do I get it to 3.2u if I am semi-bricked from SMG? My internet connection on the WiFi is botched with the opera help page that comes up.

No way of getting 3.2u on a download and burning it on a dvd?
Or is there another game I can get to update me (besides SSBB)?

Thanks!
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DanTeeCee
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22. March 2008 @ 02:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can i get a confirmation by anyone that the freeloader + backup ssbb works?
I got my freeloader 2 days ago, and works.
Some games that use to lock on the load screen and 100% playable.

I have a wiikey 1.9, on a pal 3.1E.
i have read some threads confirming the freeloader
working with a backup of ssbb, and a certain process you
have to do with the freeloader for it to work.

Not the normal process of putting the freeloader in once, but
for ssbb you have to put it in twice.

Just want to know if anyone can confirm.
 
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