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Wii Firmware Updates, Wii and WiiKey Resources
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Quarion
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15. April 2008 @ 13:43 |
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Originally posted by juniR:
Originally posted by Quarion:
how can i know which update i have on my wiikey?
If you can run SMG you definitely have at least 1.9g. The only way to verify you have 1.9s is to try SSBB original cos that's what 1.9s fixes.
Originally posted by Quarion:
Btw, now i'm remembering that i've a friend which went to the same shop to put wiikey on his wii (he went there before me) and he updated after (not to 1.9s but to a version before, because he had a version older than that)
so probably, i've the same wiikey and it's not "fake"... (but mine was updated when i tested mario galaxy)
No - it might well update to a point if it's a clone - I'm saying if it gets to that point and won't update further and gives that connection error as well, it can be an indication of a clone. Don't count your chickens m8. It's the error that's the main indicator cos so much is working for you without any problem. It's reading the update disk and telling you it can't connect properly to the chip to update it. It doesn't matter that it worked with previous updates. How do you know it isn't trying to access a previously unused part of the chip's memory to add more code and that's the connection error?
You wanna check? - you have to open the Wii and look. The only other thing you can do is ask the fitter if it's a clone. If he says no then you still have to check of course, but some will be straight and tell you if it is.
of course, this friend said to me, that the "fitter" retarded the modify of his wii because he received a pack of "fake chips" and so he sent them back...it looks affidable (this fitter)
Btw it can't have 1.9s because didn't come out when i bought the wii and modified it...
Although i'll try to burn dvds without nero but by using img burn and i'll see what happen.
Thanks for everything
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kelsey432
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15. April 2008 @ 20:01 |
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Originally posted by smallworm:
Originally posted by kelsey432:
I hope im posting in the right thread, this is where i got redirected too, so if not let me know. Anyways, I just got the wiikey and installed it on my wii. I had/have the wii 3.2 firmware, and dont know what wiikey firmware i have. When i put in the original brawl disc it plays, i think this would mean that the wiikey firmware is 1.9s. I have burned multiple config discs multiple different ways using file chop and GCOS at x4 speed with imgburn and clonedvd. Im using sony dvd-r and already tried memorex dvd+r both with no success. Could this mean that i soldered the wiikey incorrectly or that im not burning the config discs correctly? Any help is appreciated, Thanks.
Was the config file an official one from wiikey.cn? If so, you need to extract it twice to get the REAL iso file (for some reason the wiikey playing a trick here for US config). Therefore, you need to open the first extracted iso file with WinRar again, you'll see another iso file contains "1.9x" in the file name. Then extract that one, filechop it and burn.
Thanks smallworm, i called a place that can mod my wii and he said that too, he also told me that it is most likely installed wrong so i need to get it fixed. Thanks though
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Iceman08
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16. April 2008 @ 10:03 |
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Originally posted by gggu:
Originally posted by Iceman08:
Hey gggu ;
Thanks for your info....but like i said i am a complete novice with this stuff. I basically need this to be told me to set by step.
How would i use the generic wii patcher ?
How can i update my wiikey to 1.9s
Do i need to burn these programs onto a disk and then run it on the wii ??
Thanks for helping me out.
Yeah, like JuniR said, check out the first post of this thread... it's very useful! But while I'm posting I might as well tell you (briefly) that you should download the update from http://www.wiikey.cn . With the update though, unlike games you will have to filechop the update file itself into a 3GB+ image which you then burn to DVD.
Thanks for all your help...if i mess up...will get back to you.
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hyewiz
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16. April 2008 @ 11:03 |
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My wii has Wiikey Mod chip its been almost a year, i don't know how to check which version it is but i know the wii has 3.0U version.
my question is
1; do i need to update 3.0U version
2; do i need to update wiikey to 1.9s
and if bought answers are yes, can you show me step-by-step how to because i never had to do, and have no idea how.
thank you very much
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gggu
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16. April 2008 @ 11:12 |
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Originally posted by hyewiz:
my question is
1; do i need to update 3.0U version
2; do i need to update wiikey to 1.9s
Hi Hyewiz. There is no "need" to update anything, unless you want to play games that require firmware versions newer than 3.0U or require the Wiikey to be 1.9s (such as SSBB)... so I suggest you read the first post of this thread-- basically tells you how to do everything! To start you off though, http://www.wiikey.cn and the compatibility table are your friends. ;)
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16. April 2008 @ 15:18 |
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do i update wii firmware before i install wiikey?
Thanks in advance
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mikeio
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16. April 2008 @ 16:02 |
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anyone have a link to a padded 1.9 us config disk? thanks!
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juniR
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16. April 2008 @ 16:48 |
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Originally posted by mikeio:
anyone have a link to a padded 1.9 us config disk? thanks!
try the first post first eh ;)
Wii 3.2E w/ Wiikey 1.9s :: PSP 3.90 M33-3 :: NDS w/ R4DS :: Nokia N95
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juniR
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16. April 2008 @ 16:51 |
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Originally posted by polyd8:
do i update wii firmware before i install wiikey?
Thanks in advance
I'd get the wiikey in first cos it can be easier to update the wiikey that way but it's not a case of right or wrong - if you were fully updated you can still get sorted.
Wii 3.2E w/ Wiikey 1.9s :: PSP 3.90 M33-3 :: NDS w/ R4DS :: Nokia N95
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jessyrk
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17. April 2008 @ 09:51 |
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to rafa:
I checked the site you gave me and it says i likely have the GC2-D2C chipset. The problem is, I can't seem to run the Japanese OR the US version of Smash Brawl X... I removed the updater for the game with wiibrick and it just doesn't want to run for some reason, it just gives me a black screen... any ideas why?
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Ok - all you know is you have a "chip" ...If it's not a GC2-D2B chipset then it won't be a wiikey. Check here...
http://wiitracker.nintendo-scene.com/search.php
If you have a GC2-D2C then you will almost certainly have a D2CKey which doesn't require updating which leads me to this next question...
What problems have you had with any games that would make you think your chip, if it is a wiikey, needs updating?
Media - use Verbatim DVD-R using imgburn @ 4x to burn.
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juniR
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17. April 2008 @ 10:23 |
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Originally posted by jessyrk:
to rafa:
I checked the site you gave me and it says i likely have the GC2-D2C chipset. The problem is, I can't seem to run the Japanese OR the US version of Smash Brawl X... I removed the updater for the game with wiibrick and it just doesn't want to run for some reason, it just gives me a black screen... any ideas why?
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Ok - all you know is you have a "chip" ...If it's not a GC2-D2B chipset then it won't be a wiikey. Check here...
http://wiitracker.nintendo-scene.com/search.php
If you have a GC2-D2C then you will almost certainly have a D2CKey which doesn't require updating which leads me to this next question...
What problems have you had with any games that would make you think your chip, if it is a wiikey, needs updating?
Media - use Verbatim DVD-R using imgburn @ 4x to burn.
That's my reply you've quoted - I told you to check the Wii tracker. You have a D2C Wii like I said and therefore prolly a D2CKey in there so no update is necessary. Hence your issue doesn't have anything to do with wiikey or updating it. The Wii itself can be updated online and you should now use the SSBB thread for info on how to run that specific game.
Wii 3.2E w/ Wiikey 1.9s :: PSP 3.90 M33-3 :: NDS w/ R4DS :: Nokia N95
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jessyrk
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17. April 2008 @ 13:33 |
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ok, thanks juniR, appreciate your help
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reizvoll
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17. April 2008 @ 14:40 |
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Ok so, I've read a good portion of the guides on here, and tried many of them, here is my problem....
Opened my wii, soldered a Wiikey on, though not very gracefully. Put it back together, turned it on, it boots, and plays original games. However, I cannot get it to recognize any burned disc. I've tried about 15 discs of two brands, TDK +R and Memorex -R, always at 4x. When I pop it in, it says it doesn't recognize the disk, check the manual blah blah. I've tried firmware update discs, and burned game discs. (Mainly super paper mario, super mario galaxy, lego star wars.)
For reference, my Wii has firmware version 3.2U. I don't know the exact serial number on my DVD drive, but I know I installed the right modchip, and that it was an official one, from an official reseller.
Main point is, nothing has worked. So I have a few questions...
* Is it at all possible I soldered wrong if I can play original games?
* Are my DVDs the problem? I've ordered another spindle of Verbatim DVD-R, but it isn't here yet.
* Am I doing it wrong? No two guides say to do the same thing, so I'm guessing there are many ways of doing it. Is there some sure fire disc I can burn that I know would do something? At least then I can be sure it is the DVDs. At this point, my Wii acts like I've done nothing to it.
For reference, I've tried:
Just burning 1.9s.us iso, from the wiikey.cn site.
Padding 1.9s with filechop, and burning that. (This is the only one that was actually the exact recommended size of 1459978240. The others were either ~48 MB or just over the exact number.)
Using Make-Multi to turn unpadded iso into GCOS disc.
Burning pre-padded 1.9s, from the first post on this thread.Using WiiUI to turn pre-padded 1.9s iso into a GCOS disc.
Many of these I tried in nero as well as IMGBurn, but nero was making me angry because I'd tell it 4x, and it'd burn at 16x.
Any help appreciated =(
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juniR
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17. April 2008 @ 15:27 |
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OK - if the wii doesn't see ANY Verbatim DVD-R burned @ 4x using imgburn, it's one of the following,
1. Your burner is really poor and not burning disks for Wii very well. Solution try another burner.
2. You wiikey is not working - solution, check all joints you've soldered with a multimeter and put any breaks right. If there are no breaks, remove and try another wiikey. This assumes you have, indeed, got a D2B chipset.
Also FYI - memorex are very iffy so they are not recommended. I dunno bout the TDK+Rs but your whole problem might just be media. Also if your solder job is iffy and there are any shorts you mighta killed the chip or at least made it not work properly and yes, of course it's possible originals still work - especially if the chip is doing absolutely nothing to the drive.
Wii 3.2E w/ Wiikey 1.9s :: PSP 3.90 M33-3 :: NDS w/ R4DS :: Nokia N95
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reizvoll
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17. April 2008 @ 15:41 |
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ok, I will wait for the Verbatim DVDs to come, and if they don't work I'll open it again and test my soldering with a multimeter. Thanks, I forgot about that.
The soldering didn't go too well because I tried the short wire method, and I soldered a bit of wire to the very small contacts on the DVD drive, then attempted to gently bend the wire back to the pad on the chip. While bending, the soldering came off the board, including the little tiny dot on the board itself.
I don't think there are any shorts, as I checked real close for that, but the one where the soldering point came off the board may not be touching the board enough, or at all. I had just heard that it either works or it doesn't, that id I had soldered badly it wouldn't turn on or boot any games. I wasn't sure if that was true or not.
If I redo the soldering I'll prolly switch to the long wired method, as it would have made it much easier, and for the contacts I pulled off, I may have to attach the wires to the DVD drive chip itself.
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deltron01
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17. April 2008 @ 17:52 |
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I have tried multiple options to get my Wiikey working properly. Originally after installation i played a burnt game without problem. Then i attempted to update the firmware in order to play SSBB. I believe this is where the problem began, because from then on i cannot play any copied discs in the wii.
- The firmware update ran through without problem and possibly was not finished when i turned off the system. - This is the only thing that i can think of.
- Since then i have tried to run the following on both DVD+ & - R discs
1.9s update raw - the one that originally worked
1.9s update padded
1.4 Config Padded
1.9b recovery padded
Hacked 1.3 Bootable disc
No matter what disc i enter, when i go into the disc menu i get the following error.
" Unable to read disc" " check wii opperations manual for help troubleshooting"
I have not tried any GCOS discs - as i am still unsure what the difference is. and have tried to leave the 1.9b recovery running while unable read disc message is going.
I have not used a multimeter to check the soldering - as i am also unsure how to do that or what reading to expect if the connection is good or bad.
I believe that due to the originally functionality of the chip that it was soldered properly. i have reopened the wii to check the connections.
Any help would be greatly appreciated- as i am getting ready to order another chip.
Also the original came with a holigram and was purchased from Modchipcentral.
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juniR
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17. April 2008 @ 18:43 |
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Originally posted by deltron01:
... i cannot play any copied discs in the wii.
- The firmware update ran through without problem and possibly was not finished when i turned off the system. - This is the only thing that i can think of.
- Since then i have tried to run the following on both DVD+ & - R discs
With ANY update to Wii firmware or wiikey it's possible that previously readable burned disks might not be readable. This is quite common with some media. Media is the most common problem ppl have imo.
The best results are using Verbatim DVD-R using imgburn @4x
That should be the first thing you try. Ensure you try a game in region as well to be sure it's compatible.
Wii 3.2E w/ Wiikey 1.9s :: PSP 3.90 M33-3 :: NDS w/ R4DS :: Nokia N95
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deltron01
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17. April 2008 @ 19:47 |
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well i will be going to the store to purchase some verbatim dvd-r right now. but i have burnt the bootdisc and recovery disc on taiyo yuden and noticed no function on these either. i burnt using nero. i will download imageburn and try but i am doubtful if this will rectify my problem.
keep you updated
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juniR
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17. April 2008 @ 20:56 |
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hmmm TY should be good - verbatim are TYG03 - if you try a different burner then do that.
Try a hacked config from the first post maybe. See if you can get that to run or if not try wiikey recovery disk and then update it again.
Wii 3.2E w/ Wiikey 1.9s :: PSP 3.90 M33-3 :: NDS w/ R4DS :: Nokia N95
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deltron01
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17. April 2008 @ 22:00 |
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i will try to use the taiyo i am willing to reburn all discs using imageburn at 4x. can you let me know the order that i should attempt to use the discs. i think from the posts that its like this:
1. 1.3 hacked bootdisc
2. 1.4 config padded
3. 1.9s update padded
if the bootdisc works in the first place.
i will also burn a copy of NTSC game on TY with imageburn 4X to see if that is the problem.
-also should i reburn the recovery disc in the same manner or should the hacked boot disc do the trick of restoring the wiikey back to original operating?
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mikeio
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18. April 2008 @ 03:29 |
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first page has 1.9us config, but i need it already filechopped, i cant seem to get it to work, thanks.
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juniR
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18. April 2008 @ 08:29 |
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Originally posted by deltron01:
i will try to use the taiyo i am willing to reburn all discs using imageburn at 4x. can you let me know the order that i should attempt to use the discs. i think from the posts that its like this:
1. 1.3 hacked bootdisc
2. 1.4 config padded
3. 1.9s update padded
if the bootdisc works in the first place.
i will also burn a copy of NTSC game on TY with imageburn 4X to see if that is the problem.
-also should i reburn the recovery disc in the same manner or should the hacked boot disc do the trick of restoring the wiikey back to original operating?
Ok you need to know that configs aren't the same as firmware - they config the chip. Firmware disks set up the firmware to whatever version you are putting in.
If you burn Verbatim DVD-R @ 4x using imgburn then some disk should show up really. However if the wiikey isn't flashed properly then that might cause them not to be seen. You'd then try to use recovery and update again. If you read the first post in the thread all necessary info is there. The only other thing that may have happened is that there is something wrong with the chip or the install. The chip may have lost a contact on one of the points after a short time due to a dry joint developing. This can easily happen with changes in temperature. Testing with a multimeter is the usual way to identify that kind of problem.
Config disks are really only necessary to set up the wiikey once it has the relevant firmware. Sometimes a config disk won't work because region override has been disabled and a hacked config is used instead to turn it back on.
In short - I'd say if the Wii sees no burnt disk in the game channel window, whatever disks you try, then you have to run recovery. If that doesn't work you have to check the chip istelf.
Wii 3.2E w/ Wiikey 1.9s :: PSP 3.90 M33-3 :: NDS w/ R4DS :: Nokia N95
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gggu
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18. April 2008 @ 11:30 |
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Originally posted by miotot:
... I fixed this by using the update on SSBB Jap version. Once fixed, i updated it online so it has the latest firmware and I can play the SMG US version. PAL SMG, I think has issues on Jap Wii. See the compatability list.
I just tried what Miotot suggested and it fixed my semi-brick. Woohoo!! Now I can once again access my settings screen, and I've been updated to 3.1J.
I'm now going to burn a [NTSC-U] SMG and try it out. Let's hope it works!
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reizvoll
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18. April 2008 @ 16:47 |
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So I tried verbatim dvd-r discs, they dont work. I will be resoldering.
One question though... since I ripped off a pad, I should probably solder directly to the IC on the Wii board. Why do all the guides I see have the IC legs cut and the chip itself dremel'd down to expose the connections underneath? Is that really necessary or can I solder to the leg of the IC? Why do they do that? I can't think of any reason why it would need that.
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juniR
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18. April 2008 @ 17:06 |
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Originally posted by reizvoll:
So I tried verbatim dvd-r discs, they dont work. I will be resoldering.
One question though... since I ripped off a pad, I should probably solder directly to the IC on the Wii board. Why do all the guides I see have the IC legs cut and the chip itself dremel'd down to expose the connections underneath? Is that really necessary or can I solder to the leg of the IC? Why do they do that? I can't think of any reason why it would need that.
Yeah I think you can go to the leg cos I've read of others doing it... you can search thru forums for other posts using - solder, pad, dremel, legs and there'll be threads on discussion.
The leg cutting was what Nintendo did to try and make modchip fitting awkward. Fitters dremel cos they can't solder to the legs. If you don't have cut legs it's not an issue.
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