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zelda64
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20. December 2005 @ 13:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Whether you said part of the information is wrong or not, you have still claimed that part of that biased source is correct. I could have said that I think both consoles are ferraries from that last quote. You would have claimed me as wrong as I took this from a biased source of information, the same apllies.

Regardles of your connecion speed you have not seen what 360 has to offer therefore you cannot pass judgment. I like GT as well but dont you like to see and research into new games that might be better, hense why I keep on going on about Gears of War?

You keep on using the fact that because your buying a 360 it lets you off the hook as being non biased. Well I am also buying a PS3 somwhere down the line but I am quit certain it will not be as good as my 360. So I prefer 360 and you prefer PS3. DONE. I dont use biased info website's and I dont agree on biased info websites either. (please dont use my Ferarrie thing I bring up here as an arguing point to what I just said. I was using it as an example)
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20. December 2005 @ 14:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lads, its starting again ent it? we start this arguement all over again about being biased etc.. shall we stop it here.. because we all no we've got valid points, so correct some not so correct..
but i have been talkin to people on this thread and its all gettin blown out of preportion, it turns out none of use a really 'fanboys' or biased to one console or another..

we've jus looked at interviews reviews etc and made our own minds up..
and stop wiv the quoting, its like a salon with b!tch!n chavs!

and you cant trust ign or gamespot or woteva because of marketing, m$ or sony are paying um t favour one more than the other.. make your own minds up!

oh and not to forget, ther is spam, dont always believe wot you read!
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20. December 2005 @ 17:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Zelda, i only put the GT video up there to show people the new GT5. NOTHING ELSE. my connection speed sucks, ill rather download that thing over night. i've said many times before my upload rate at peak is only 56kb/s. Do the math. The 20mb thing didnt take as long as taht, mabey 30 minutes im not for sure. I'l watch the freaking thing tomorow godamit.
I've said both consols will almsot be equil, and are great consols.
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Regardles of your connecion speed you have not seen what 360 has to offer therefore you cannot pass judgment.
I dont pass judgment, i state what i know about ps3, then i judge the specs of the systems. And how it has been with ps2 and xbox. Thats it, i dont even use resorces most of the time about games. Mabey like somtimes, but not all the time, mostly the thaughts i ahave about games is oppinion based. To be honest, you've looked at like all ps3 games, while i've only looked at some of them. Games mean nothing to me so far. Ps3 didnt state what new games they will have since may 16. Whats the point man? My oppinion is wait and you'll see.
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You keep on using the fact that because your buying a 360 it lets you off the hook as being non biased. Well I am also buying a PS3 somwhere down the line but I am quit certain it will not be as good as my 360. So I prefer 360 and you prefer PS3. DONE.
Lol, you copy cat, i use DONE at the end. Lol.
Do you have a xbox and a ps2? You do right? Which one do you perfer? Xbox? Well? Same goes arround with me. Currently ps3 is more of what i like than the 360. Thats it, nothing else. Mabey things will change say if like the ps3 doesnt have anymore of those games that i like like. But currently i dont know, so i perfer ps3 because of what it can produce. The facts. The history of the system. And previos games of the previos systems.





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zelda64
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20. December 2005 @ 19:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok like JuBei87 suggests lets stop over the argument of being biesed. I just got a bit annoyed when he agreed with one of the biased comments, but lets stop now.

When I said the DONE thing at the end I did it on purpose as a joke.

Moving along. I think I get frustrated when someone says 'look at the GT5 deomstration' and everyone goes to have a look (like everyone should) and says WOW! (rightfully so) Then someone says 'look at Gears of War' and no one responds because they dont bother to look. In Kookoo's case I can understand but not everyone here is on dial up.

Answering your question, (Kookoo) to if I have a xbox or PS2 the answer is yes and due to my little brother I am fortunate enough to also be playing a Game Cube. I say fortunate but to be honest Nintendo is going down hill but that is for another forum.

Having a PS2 first I thought I would love the system and when Microsoft revealed the xbox I was nearly as negative towards it as anubis. I remember when me and my brother went into the game shop and saw it there, so we waited in the que and gave it a try. Our fisrt impressions where not good. Already having a negative attitude towards the xbox made things worse but we didnt like the controler and our first experiance of Halo wasnt good either. Our impression of the console was rubbish. However if it wasnt for getting the xbox as a present then I wouldnt have relised how wrong me and my brother where. Halo is now one of my all time favourite games along with Doom and Metal Gear Solid.

The point I am trying to make with this little story is that people who dont give things a chance will never know. Going to look at the 360 in a negative way and playing on it for half an hour does not make it worhty of anyone to pass judgent as I found out with the xbox.

There hasnt been many games shown for the PS3 yet. But Kookoo from my understanding you like RPG games with a Japanese style? I would strongly suggest you check out the exclusive RPG games made by some top Japanese developers coming to the 360. Besides Resident Evil coming to 360 there is also this another exclusive game from Capcom called Lost Planet which looks really good. Also Blue Dragon pictures are out now. There is also CRYON (Sakaguchi is the producer and Nobuo Uematsu will handle the music, both of Final Fantasy fame), Bullet Witch, Lost Odessy, Mass Effect (although its more of a American RPG than Jananese).

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samshizze
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20. December 2005 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just cant believe x360 didnt include a hddvd drive. Do they really think a DVD DL is gonna be enough room to fit these incredibly sophisticated games? There are some PS2 games that were pushing the storage limit of DVD DL's. Microsoft made a huge mistake and they're gonna be screwed down the line.

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JuBei87
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21. December 2005 @ 01:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wot comment did i agree wiv?

all those rpg games you just mentioned look amazing, i've been watchin them for ages, looks like there coming along well.. better than wot i expected..

x360 did come wiv a hard drive !??? there were 2 packages, core package, jus the system n a cnormal wired controller and premium package, wiv everything.. broadband stuff n hard drive and wireless pad..
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21. December 2005 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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When I said the DONE thing at the end I did it on purpose as a joke.
...uhh duhh, why would you think i was laughing. I didnt sound serios.
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The point I am trying to make with this little story is that people who dont give things a chance will never know.
Dont you do the same thing? Ps3 ddint show off its gamse since may 16. And they got 170 games + in development. You've just never seen them. You do0nt give gt a chance, ff or any of ps3 a chance. But whatever. By the way resedent evil is goign to be multy console. And i didnt say 360's rpg's are bad. Somehow you imply that yourself. mabey its the image i give to others.

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zelda64
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21. December 2005 @ 14:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Stop right there Kookoo. My desision on the 360 isnt 100% until January when Sony reviel all. Second dont say I havent given FF a chance when I have played FF 7,8 and 9 and thought them as not mught type of game. The answer I gave about giving things a chance wasnt directed at you but it can still apply to you. I cant be asked to quote you on this by looking back but you do suggest to buy the PS3 if you like RPG's. This is the type of thing I am talking about. You havent seen the RPG's on 360 and even if you have you havent played them so its wrong to suggest such a thing. Its like me saying buy a 360 for fps but I havent seen what the PS3 has to offer on fps.

Also, of course I know Resident Evil 5 is coming to PS3 as well but what I was saying is have you seen Lost Planet?
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i believe the exclusion of hddvd was the worst thing m$ has done in this whole fight. game
dev's wont make so many games for them in a year or two when the size of gaming become
even more immense.

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21. December 2005 @ 21:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmm, i've been gone all day and alot has been said.. does zelda talk about anything other
than biasim? i mean, you may say i'm biased and it may seem so, but i know the ps3 to be
better by some. i post "bias" info, so you say, to stir an argument and show the oppisite side
of your spectrum to show you what may be true. i'm negative toward it to show you a deep
thought way of the other side so maybe you'll examine. dont be like a left winger republican,
only beieving what is said by the higher-ups and living yuor day on that. please just wait
untill all is said and both system are out untill accusing people of such things you keep
accusing them of.

thank you for your time

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KoOkOo67
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22. December 2005 @ 02:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LA LA LA LA LA
Are you people goign to stop bickering yett?
LA LA LA
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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Kookoo is right lets stop this. So anubis what new stuff do you know about PS3?
ascarta
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22. December 2005 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well you know neather of them looks as good as my PC so :P

and when the hell did games become all about the graphics? WTF? I never hear how fun a game is only about how good it looks. you know I still drag out the old nintendo or atari some times and have a blast. Get some focus people! And I wont be geting eather of the new ones untill they become a better price and I find a game I just gota have.

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KoOkOo67
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Yes, pc's will stil have some advantage for a bit. Not long until game developers use more potential of the vcards and therfore better graphics. Currently pc graphics is pwned by the xenos gpu and rsx gpu.
Lol, i play like mario 3 all the time. The most decent mario game. lol. It's still fun.

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22. December 2005 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i agree, they should of included the hdd in the core package, wots goin on?

yeah ur maybe right, tho dell's PC built for gaming is jus the best i think, im prob wrong..

but developers arnt pushing 360 t the limit yet, because its still essentially a test and its so young, makes sense really ey? read it in EDGE magazine, m$ also said that they manufactured so little consoles because they wanted to give people a taste of the next gen console, so the thought of it would stay in their mind and they may then be inclined to buy it.. do you believe this? it came from m$ spokes people! opinions please!

i love mario 3 too one of the best! tho i love super mario world, they're both amazing but which is the best? im undecided..

also, can any one add? how good is PDZ? is it anyway like the original?

also, is anyone rooting for nintendo revolution here or does everyone not like it?
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22. December 2005 @ 14:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the 360 wont use all 6 threads(3cores)untill 3-5 years from now. They arnt needed for the games at this point. Game developerss are critisizing both consols because the engeniers of the consols advanced the consols in ways the gamedevelopers didnt want. They didnt get what they want. They got somthing else. They even said "If the next gen consols used intel or amd, they would of been far far ahead of the computers. Now its all complex." i think even afterdawn gave a news report on this.

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JuBei87
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23. December 2005 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well now seeing about how both consoles will work at full capacity in a few yrs time at their peak, i think there will be a fraction of a diference between them, and 360 jus havin tht edge over ps3..
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23. December 2005 @ 13:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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and 360 jus havin tht edge over ps3..
How did you get that from the websites?

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JuBei87
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23. December 2005 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i didnt mean i looked at those websites, tho i have looked at those before..

i got my conclusion from reading more magazines which i bought today, with talks, interviews.. and by the sound of it, i believe tht both consoles will be real close, but 360 will jus have the edge over ps3..
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23. December 2005 @ 15:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
which magasine?LOL
You shouldnt listen o interviews.. obviosly omeone from m$ will stick with 360 is better and someone from sony will stick with the ps3. Obviosly!
You have find your own conclusions by compairing them when the ps3 comes out. They might of tweaked it by now, might of made it better or worse. Right now im still sticking with ps3 is better.

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my d4mn gmail wont recieve emails. so i dunno when things update. and yeah interview and reviews mean nothing unless they are from independents with experience.
zelda64
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23. December 2005 @ 18:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Indepentandts with experiance anubis. your one too talk.

On page 6 of this thread you post a piece of information by a non-indepaentant source
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taken from http://ps3-evolution.dcemu.co.uk/
who appears not to have that much experiance
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all the people that thought Xbox 360 was going to have super-duper DVD technology
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You use this information to prove your point on the 360 and its launch. If this is the information you read to get your information then I dont think you can say anything to JuBei87 regarding the matter of him researching on websites and magazines.

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23. December 2005 @ 21:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Unreal Tornament is going to be a launch title for PS3. That's going to seriously hurt 360. I've played unreal and it's as good as halo.

I think the biggest thing that's going to hurt Sony is that they won't go to a centeralized online gaming system like Xbox.
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zelda64
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23. December 2005 @ 21:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Unreal Tournament 2007 is also on xbox 360 and is released the same time as PS3. The way its been shown on some web sites make it seems like its only for PS3 like gamespots website. Its easy to misinterparate information.

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