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10. March 2006 @ 15:26 |
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damn i must be goin blind.. reading all these aD forums. didnt see the rebate offer.. sorry... one hell of a deal
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10. March 2006 @ 17:39 |
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Yeah I'm going to make some backups for my friend. He sent me 15 Verb's in the mail. I can't wait to scan them and run them by my Taiyo Yuden's. I'm aware of the quick scan limitations. You won't get 100% on every disc, but a lot of the time. Mainly the quick scan will miss large PI/PO spikes. On quality media, I don't really worry about that. Considering the full scan takes over a half hour and a quick scan takes a minute or two, I'll go with the quick scan. The Sony DRU-820A just came out, anybody know who the OEM is? It seems like a likely candidate is the BenQ DW 1650. Here's the article: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/260
@ delateur I've been using Yuden000T02 booktyped to DVD-ROM lately as well for PS2 backups. So far I've got 20+ that all play perfectly. I burn them at 4x, my burner doesn't give the option for 6x. My 4x burns have almost perfect scores every time. You shouldn't have any issues with them, it must just be firmware limitations that don't allow you to burn at 4x. If you can get away with burning at 8x, then go ahead. Burning faster is actually good for constant disc access games like San Andreas, GT4, or Need for Speed: Most Wanted. If you get 95+ scores burning at 8x, then burn on. As always, CD/DVD Speed scans are just a barometer, nothing absoulte. Cheers!
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10. March 2006 @ 18:09 |
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@tokijin
actually, i spoke about the Sony dru-820a here a few days ago:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/312177
it's not the rebadge of the Benq dw-1650, but rather the 1670 (which is NOT a "good" benq, it's much like the benq DQ60 which was made by teac from before with the dvd-ram capabilities) :P
i would PERSONALLY avoid it, but that's just me~ :)
@mort81
with the rebate, that price is VERY hard to beat for those Verbs, i would get those since i KNOW you like the Verbs over the TYs on your setup at home :) yeah, i noticed in that other thread people are listing off "how much media do they have stockpiled at the moment"...hehehe, in a sense, i am kinda like a warehouse; but all that is due to the fact that i've been extremely excessive about my media buying habits since the very beginning, it's difficult for me to pass up a "good deal"...especially on media~ :)
very rarely does Taiyo Yuden have "mail in rebates", so i am gonna tell ya that if you choose to wait on TYs, you might be waiting a VERY long time to get down to the price of those MCC003s after rebate~ :) good luck buddy...
p.s. i could sell ya some of my stock, but the shipping charges incurred will probably be comparable with supermediastore/rima as there is no way to get around the actual cost of shipping...but from a friend to a friend, i could sell you the unbranded 8x DVD+R YUDEN000T02s for 30 cents a piece + exact cost of shipping that i pay if you interested, PM me~ :)
docTY~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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10. March 2006 @ 20:15 |
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Kiv,
I appreciate the most gracious gesture my friend but I know you have many and much more important things to do besides box up and send me some of your media. I thank you for the generosity and offer as I know you would do so if I ask.
I will most likely go with the verbatims. I haven't found any better deals on grade A +r media and I'm quite sure I will be happy with those verbatim's. I'm pretty sure they will be coded MCC003 and I am yet to have a coaster with this media that was due to the media (I've had a couple coasters but the fault was mine or software related).
Thanks again ole buddy and a good evening to all.~~
Sidenote: I too would avoid the benq 1670 and sony 820. I haven't heard or read anything good about them. On the other hand the benq 1650 and 1655 still have the phillips chipset and should be comperable or better than the 1620 and 1640.
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11. March 2006 @ 01:58 |
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have been following this thread for some time now and recieved a wealth of information. been at it for some time starting with 1x princos nuff said about that. used labels for dvd's :disaster.started usind ritek printables not good now trying yudens. have some coming. has anyone heard of mass failures with inkjet printables like with labels? had some linkyos that were tygo2 and seemed ok.after looking at my stack of failures i wondered if the printing had an adverse effect on the dvd itself
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11. March 2006 @ 03:25 |
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had some linkyos that were tygo2 and seemed ok
the reason for your "stack of failures" were not so much that they were inkjet printables, but MORE SO due to the fact that Linkyo's are FAKE Taiyo Yudens...cut and dry~ :)
they are made in taiwan first of all, 2ndly, it's a fake MID coding, Taiyo Yudens are ONLY made in japan...and lastly, i HAVE a 25 pack spindle of the 8x DVD-R Linkyo's with that same MID coding :) notice the pre-requisites i posted in my 1st post at the beginning of this entire thread, if the media in question does not adhere to the correct rated speed/correct media ID coding/inner hub reading AND "made in japan"...they are FAKES...unfortunately, YOU got yourself some FAKEs there, i am 100% sure of that because i have some too (Linkyo is supermediastore's parent company and those are their "house brand"...not good i'm afraid, very deceptive for the unknowing, even for "budget" media standards~) :P
your failures are NOT because you printed on them, even though printing MAY add to the problems, it's the actual cheap dye that is used...definitely NOT up to GENUINE Taiyo Yuden standards and made in the wrong country for them to be "authentic TYs" :)
docTY~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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11. March 2006 @ 04:52 |
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I can attest that the inkjet printable TY and Verb are just as reliable as their non-printables... Maxell inkjet printables (MIJ) are good quality as well. Shop supermediastore, rima, and newegg.com and you will have no need to buy TY and Verb inkjet printables anywhere else! The brick and mortar sales are never for quality inkjet printables...
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11. March 2006 @ 08:47 |
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Wow that deal from newegg for the 100 pk of verbatim 8x dvd+r's was better than I thought. Not only is there a $25 mail in rebate but the shipping is free if you select their UPS 3 day guaranteed shipping. 23 cents a disc for verbatim MCC003 media. Doesn't get much better than that.
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11. March 2006 @ 09:37 |
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@dagodan
To paraphrase teflonmyk those inkjet TY are A++++++. Should have no problems. I have printed many and have had no problems. The only problems I did have w/ printables was w/ Ritek, Prodisc and yes Memorex (was a gift with the printer). Printing on the dvd should have no adverse affect on the disc - just burn 1st then print and keep the tray clean.
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11. March 2006 @ 16:45 |
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@mort81: I'm pretty much convincing myself to get a stack of those Verbs. I know they make fine media, well above the standards of just about anything else out there, and probably fully comparable to TYs. I'd really like to give them a try and see what sort of error count they give. I'm sure even if they're not coming out at 100% like my TYs have been, they'll still be very good.
@tokijin: Be sure and let us know how those Verbs work for you. Even though you don't have the same drive I do (Lite-On 1693S), I'm sure your results will be similar to what I can expect.
@docTY: What's your feeling on Verbs? Do you only buy TYs because you know they're the best, or do you break down and buy Verbs when you can get them at such an amazing price? I'm just curious.
I've got a couple more burns to do tonight, perhaps three if I decide to do a movie I've been putting off. I think it's time to start stockpiling a bit... :)
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11. March 2006 @ 17:25 |
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delateur,
My media of choice are the verbatim dvd+r hub printables for a couple reasons: verbatim dvd+r hub printables are cheaper than ty hub printables, and all there is in the city I live in is a staples, walmart, target, and wallgreens and they don't have the good deals on sony mij, fuji mij, and verbatim media like office depot, best buy, circuit city, and sams club.
My verbs burned on a benq DW1620 scan out consistantly at 97 and 98 with nero disc quality scan. The price for this media with the rebate is comparable to the price of ritek ridata and I would take verbatim MCC003's any day over ritek R03's or G05's (which of course are dvd-r's and can be bought for less money but can not be booktyped dvd-rom).
I can't speak for kivory but I know he is also a fan of verbatim MCC003 and MCC004 media. I'm sure he will concur and I will be suprised if he doesn't buy a 100 pk or 2 of these also. His media of choice is ty dvd+r's but he's told me many times that verbatim dvd+r's are a close 2nd. We're both on the dvd-rom bandwagon and therefor prefer +r media even though it is usually more expensive when purchased online. Kivory used to be a dvd-r guy but I've got to take the credit for converting him over to dvd+r booktyped to dvd-rom and he will vouch for that. I have learned a lot of what I know about media and media codes from him. He will definately tell you that verbatim makes the best DL media. You can't hardly go wrong with verbatim dvd+r's at that price. OK I'll shut up and let the doc cut me up for speaking in his place
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11. March 2006 @ 17:32 |
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Well I did some quick scans, I'll post some, a couple of the other scans I've done are older, so it wouldn't be fair to compare TY's done with older firmware with newer burns of Verb's on my current firmware. Since updating my firmware to 1.d, my burn quality has been near perfect. Needless to say, my next drive will be a BenQ DW 1650. Here's my first side by side comparison. Quite honestly the Verb's have acquitted themselves well so far. Not that I expected otherwise, but they've been better than or equal to the Taiyo Yuden DVD-R's in every scan so far. My newer burns to TYG02 match the Verb's in terms of max PIE spikes. Strangely I get slightly higher PIE spikes burning to DVD+R's booktyped to DVD-ROM (9-12) than I do to DVD-R's (5-9). Anyone know the reason for that? I don't care, I'm starting to prefer the DVD+R's booktyped to DVD-ROM for playback, but shouldn't I be getting better scores with DVD+R's? I know that CD/DVD Speed scans are just a barometer, but with below Max 10 PIE's, you're looking at zero skips or playback issues related to media when dealing with PS2 backups.
Here's Prince of Persia: The Warrior Within backed up on TYG02:
Here it is on Verbs:
Here's Prince of Persia Two Thrones on TYG02:
On Verb's:
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11. March 2006 @ 18:22 |
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Ahhhhh ... the old TY-Verbatim debate ... it's a win/win as far as I'm concerned ..... after thousands of burns using 4x, 8x and 16x Verbatim discs and thousands using 4x and 8x Fuji/Yudens I can safely conclude that it's a wash to a certain extent
My BenQ, NEC, Plextor and Pioneer do slightly better with the Yudens while my LiteOn, Ricoh and HP prefer the Verbs ... Now when it comes to my set top recorders, well they're both LiteOn LVW5005 and they really don't like the Yudens ... the Verbs work really well in them but, believe it or not .. the Taiwanese Sony discs really work best
@ delateur if you look at my buddy Doc's sig, near the bottom, he states his opinion on the Verbs "TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~" says it all
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11. March 2006 @ 18:35 |
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Catfreak, I attempted to read the DVD+R vs DVD-R article. I lack the fundamental understanding of engineering to make heads or tails of that stuff. I'd like to be able to explain in more detail to people why the evidence suggests DVD+R is better. Could you as simply as possible paraphrase the main points of the article? I'd appreciate it. I'm certainly no dummy, but I'm also not an enigeering major either. Thanks.
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11. March 2006 @ 19:07 |
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Read the first two paragraphs in this section:
Pre-pits versus ADIP
and this part of the conclusion says it all:
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During my study of rewritable DVD formats it seemed very clear to me that DVD-R(W) standard was not as well designed as DVD+R(W) (or even DVD-RAM). And although some serious efforts have been put in the latest revisions of the - format to fix some of the original problems (at the cost of a much increased complexity), it still remains technically inferior to +, due to some intrinsic weaknesses (e.g. pre-pits). This is not very surprising, as Sony and Philips have a much longer experience at defining standards than Pioneer (and several key patents), and they also had the advantage to publish their standards after their competitors
basically, DVD+R had the advantage of being able to study and leard from DVD-R mistakes and drawbacks ... thereby improving on DVD-R's format ...
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11. March 2006 @ 19:17 |
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Okay thanks. I never would've made it to the conclusion of that thing. Cheers!
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11. March 2006 @ 20:58 |
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@delateur
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@docTY: What's your feeling on Verbs? Do you only buy TYs because you know they're the best, or do you break down and buy Verbs when you can get them at such an amazing price? I'm just curious.
seems as if my buddies mort81 and catfreak have came to my rescue~ :) they are indeed BOTH 100% correct in that i find the Verbatim MCC003 & MCC004 (8x & 16x DVD+R format respectively) to be excellent media, i have well over a thousand burns on the Verbatims and would go out on a limb to say IF taiyo yuden were to stop production of discs, i would be a COMPLETE Verbatim MCC fan and ONLY use those, yes, they really are THAT good~ :) as to the hacked firmware for the Liteon SOHW-1693S, i believe member forkndave currently uses that one, i have not personally tried it yet as my 1693 is just fine w/ KSOB, but i'll consider it later~ thanks :)
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I can't speak for kivory but I know he is also a fan of verbatim MCC003 and MCC004 media. I'm sure he will concur and I will be suprised if he doesn't buy a 100 pk or 2 of these also. His media of choice is ty dvd+r's but he's told me many times that verbatim dvd+r's are a close 2nd. We're both on the dvd-rom bandwagon and therefor prefer +r media even though it is usually more expensive when purchased online. Kivory used to be a DVD-R guy but I've got to take the credit for converting him over to DVD+R booktyped to dvd-rom and he will vouch for that. I have learned a lot of what I know about media and media codes from him. He will definately tell you that verbatim makes the best DL media. You can't hardly go wrong with verbatim dvd+r's at that price. OK I'll shut up and let the doc cut me up for speaking in his place
LOL, as you have stated earlier, i CAN vouch for the fact that you have converted me from DVD-R to DVD+R, that was ALL YOU~! :) credit is given to where it is due and i THANK YOU for "opening up my eyes" long time ago to start using DVD+R format, booktyped to dvd-rom no less~ :)
as to the Verbs MCC003s, that is a terrific price, however, i CAN NOT STAND mail-in-rebates~ :) this is a personal issue, i think i've been scammed by so many "mail-in-rebates" in the past that it's just left a really bad taste in my mouth, much like TDK's own media~ LOL
but, i also noticed that the rebate is limited to 1 per household, so, if you are going to get more than 1 spindle, might be a good idea to place 2 orders and since it's free shipping anyways, have them ship one order to a different address, just so you can take advantage of 2 or 3 rebates, as opposed to just 1~ (i didn't read the fine print, perhaps you could have the spindles all shipped to your house, but when mailing in the rebate, have a few different addresses to have them send the rebate check to :p)
@catfreak
thanks for the pM, nice quote and it really brightened up my day~ have you heard anything from that company for the Benq 1650? i never got an email from them since that day? my paypal payment to them is confirmed complete, but i have not heard from them since...just curious as to if you've had any better luck with them or they emailed you yet? also, i ended up picking up a tv tuner card, it's the following: Instant TV Deluxe PTV-305 by ADS Tech, more info can be found at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815255002
it came w/ snapstream's beyondtv3, but i'm going to try out the Benq suite for it you linked me to when i get a chance~ :) still waiting for a few parts before my newest computer is complete, will fire it up and see how good this pci card is once it's fully built~ :)
disregard the newbie comments on newegg's website, people never take into account that they have NO CLUE what they are doing... honestly, "operator error/stupidity" is usually 90% of the problems associated with products, unless they just got a DOA item or a "bad batch" in regards to media~
my friend also bought 2 of these cards for his systems and even though we are BOTH new to this aspect of technology (ie. tv tuner cards, etc) we're figuring it out slowly and the card itself works just fine~
@tokijin
yeah, kinda beat ya to the punch regarding the Sony dru-820a, when i was helping that guy out in that thread, i went a step further to find out more info for myself...it's not worth it in MY opinion, there is almost NO chance i am going to pick up the benq 1670, those dvd-ram compatible drives are overrated to me...i won't ever use it.
good evening to you all~
docTY~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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12. March 2006 @ 01:18 |
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i can't thank you guys enough. finally trashed my huge pile of coasters. i dont burn near as much as you guys. now have a couple hundred verbs and yudens and another stack of yudens on the way. me and my plextor 716 will be just fine
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12. March 2006 @ 01:25 |
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@dagodan
good to hear~ :) those Fake TYs are NOT good...i've had horrible luck with them~ Linkyo no mo'
docTY~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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12. March 2006 @ 09:16 |
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Eesh, go to sleep for a few hours and the thread has got 10 new posts!
@docTY/mort81: I expected that you'd both give the Verbs high praise, but I wanted to be sure before I plunked down ~$50 for a stack of media. Sure, the $25 rebate will be nice, but in my experience, it can take almost three months to see that return, so I try to just forget about the rebate and let it be a nice surprise long after I have forgotten I sent it in. After seeing Tokijin's results a bit further on, though, I'm pretty excited about the Verbs. 99% is perfectly fine by me, especially for $0.23 discs!
@docTY: As for the firmware, you're not really missing out on much, if anything, other than a different flashing sequence on the drive light. Higher grade media burns almost the same with your firmware or this "optimized" one, according to the article. It might burn a LITTLE bit faster, but I don't burn enough to know for sure. I'm sure you'd be able to determine that on your first burn, however.
@tokijin: I am completely sold on booktyping DVD+Rs to DVD-ROM, now. The discs spin up and are accessable by any drive SO much faster, it's quite amazing. This is the case in any DVD drive I use, PC, PS2, or standalone player. That one thing has made me a DVD+R burner for life, no looking back. :)
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12. March 2006 @ 12:32 |
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Reply to Tashacat, the 2 dvd players you mentioned on page 20, those 2 models do not play DVD+R, they only play DVD-R, so it's not your DVD+R disc's that are the problem.
Reply to Tokijin, thanks for laying it on the line about how things need to be explained to noobs as you call it, I just call people like me computer stupid, so many times you get info from people that's way over our heads, when your a noob you remember when we were kids and we read books, watch John run, watch spot jump, thats how things need to be explained to noobs, other wise we will get more confused with advanced answers, so thank you again in pointing that out because most people forgot how they got started.
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12. March 2006 @ 16:20 |
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All DVD players will play DVD+Rs IF they are booktyped to DVD-ROM. If you don't do this (and really, why pay the extra $ for +Rs if you aren't?), then you can run into compatibility problems. There should be no issues with DVD+Rs if you know how to set the booktype properly (I use Nero because you can set it up to do this automatically.).
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12. March 2006 @ 19:10 |
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interesting turn of events...gotta admit, when mort81 turned me to booktyping DVD+R a long time ago, i too have never turned back since (unless i'm making backups for the 2 picky Toshiba players that REFUSE to play YUDEN000T02/MCC003/MCC004 booktyped to dvd-rom) :P
there are ALWAYS exceptions to EVERY rule, while yes, booktyping a DVD+R to dvd-rom SHOULD provide a standalone with the highest capability of playing it, my family has 2 standalone Toshibas that spit out quality DVD+R media booktyped to dvd-rom as if it were broccoli to a little baby that is allergic to it~ but DVD-R play perfectly :)
good contributions in here..i'm out for the evening...good day to all~
docTY~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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12. March 2006 @ 19:20 |
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they may be just a little to much hype booktyping DVD+R to DVD-ROM IMHO ,i use the DVD-R TYGO2s and i never had a standalone dvd player thay havent played in and thats well over 100+ players ,i think the programs you use along with your machine/burners etc. make a difference also. my 2 cent maybe 3cents lol
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12. March 2006 @ 19:37 |
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There is probably some truth to what you say. The first couple Verb DVD+R DL discs I burned, I forgot to booktype to DVD-ROM. My PS2 still played them fine. The PS2 is picky, so if it'll play DVD+R/DVD+R DL's that aren't booktyped to DVD-ROM, probably most newer standalones will too. However, there's still no reason not to booktype DVD+R's to DVD-ROM if your burner supports it. Here's a pretty scan of a Verb. This is Tekken V a PS2 game.
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