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Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread
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12. April 2006 @ 17:35 |
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With the limited choices available for DL media, Verb's are the only really reliable choice. Ricoh/Ritek is buyer beware. I'm not a big fan off Ritek media of any kind, DVD-5 or DVD-9. I've seen too many boot failures on RitekG05. When you try to tell people to try something else, you get the obligatory, "well all my other backups work", and the cycle continues. Every long time Ritek user I know that's switched to TY or Verb hasn't gone back. Little off topic, that's just something that gets my goat.
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delateur
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12. April 2006 @ 22:23 |
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That's right... you just reminded me of a post by catfreak, I believe, that said while some MIDs of Ricoh media are pretty good, there is enough bad stuff out there mixed in that it makes it somewhat hard to keep track of the ones that are decent. Of course, that's a moot point when it comes to DLs, since Verbatim is really the only reliable choice for that kind of media at the moment.
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Jurgennop
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13. April 2006 @ 06:30 |
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When you have like a large number(50 or 100)of discs of the same spindle and mediacode,is it recommended to activate solidburn for my benq 1650?Like TY's or Verbs? Even if it's known media and they don't activate solidburn by default?What do the experts say?Do you activate solidburn all the time?
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13. April 2006 @ 06:36 |
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@Jurgennop - that's a question i like, i've just bought a couple Benq 1650's and am a noob to all that solidburn malarkey so am gonna keep my eyes peeled for info..
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Jurgennop
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13. April 2006 @ 06:58 |
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thanks creaky!!
What do the others think?
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delateur
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13. April 2006 @ 07:23 |
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@Jurgennop: I think that's a great question, too, and one I'll be interested to see a response to. I'm far too new to Benqs and burning to hazard a guess myself. :)
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Jurgennop
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13. April 2006 @ 07:28 |
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woohoo,hurray for me and the smart question, :)
it's just interesting if burn quality would improve if solidburn is activated for that kind of media,known,and that perticular spindle...
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13. April 2006 @ 08:44 |
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I always have SolidBurn activated .. It's really not necessary for common media codes .. What SolidBurn does is allow the burner to recognize media that isn't covered by firmware .. you know, newly released stuff .. for example: the 16x RitekP16 stuff
The only time I've noticed a difference is on new media which is mostly the 16x media ...
@ creaky .. you'll love those DW1650 burners ...
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Jurgennop
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13. April 2006 @ 09:03 |
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you have it activated for both known and unknown media??
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13. April 2006 @ 09:19 |
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Yes, both known and unknown .. I figure 'What the heck' ...
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Jurgennop
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13. April 2006 @ 09:46 |
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and didn't you notice any diff in quality after a while? For known media that is...
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Steve83
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13. April 2006 @ 09:54 |
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This is a little off-topic,but...
When will TY start spraying the middle of the silver discs so we can print on the hub???
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13. April 2006 @ 10:29 |
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@catfreak - Quote:
The only time I've noticed a difference is on new media which is mostly the 16x media ...
@ creaky .. you'll love those DW1650 burners ...
- nice..cus i've also just bought a few hundred of the new fangled 16x Verbatim TY Yuden0003 discs
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13. April 2006 @ 10:29 |
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i am with catfreak on this one too~ :) i keep my solidburn activated "on" all the time, whether this actually helps my burns (quality wise) i really don't know the TRUTH about how MUCH it does or does not help~ :) as catfreak mentioned, the TYs and Verbs that i use primarily are already supported pretty well by the firmware, so, i figure 'how much more can my drive actually LEARN from this media'? and more much more adaptation is required to make my VERY GOOD quality burns even better? :)
i figure why not? it doesn't hurt the drive or media any, so i just keep it activated all the time...benq is usually very quick (consistent) with firmware updates and i feel that in the relatively short time i've been using Benq drives (credit goes to catfreak for showin me the light), the new firmware updates do a good job of adding new MID tables and recognition to "newer" media (16x rated) that is on the market...
the way i see it, if it doesn't hurt, it can't be bad LOL~ :P
@steve83
it's not off-topic at all, you talking about TYs right? hehehe...at this time, unfortunately for you and others like myself that really like the silver printables, only the white inkjet printables are TO THE HUB at this time, i really don't see TY making SILVER inkjet HUB printables any time soon...it's a compromise we have to make i guess...it's either WHITE HUB or SILVER NON-HUB...take ur pick~ :)
@jurgennop
more specifically, I PERSONALLY didn't notice any quality diff. after about 50 burns using my benq1650 with SolidBurn activated, but that's just in MY case with the media i choose to use...i get VERY HIGH 90's quality scores consistently, would they decline if i were to turn solidburn off? i doubt it, but then again, i'm using quality media whose MID codes i'm almost CERTAIN are supported in the firmware to begin with...it's the "non-supported" ones that the SolidBurn function is more catered for...only time will tell how "effective" the Solidburn feature really is, at this point, having used Benq 1640 & 1650 for less than 6 months, i can't really give an ACCURATE 'rating' on the whole thing...
burn on buddies...
docTY~
edit: CREAKY, send me some!!! pleaseeeeeeeeeee LOL
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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13. April 2006 @ 10:29 |
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Quote:
and didn't you notice any diff in quality after a while? For known media that is...
I'm not sure .. I've burned several thousand discs with my DW1640 and 500-600 with my DW1655 and they've all been either YudenT02 or MCC004 .. In other words, it's been so long since my two BenQ drives have seen anything else I'm not really sure that there is any difference in quality with SolidBurn activated for know media .. But in all those burns, I haven't seen any quality scores less than 94 in a loooong time, so I'm not gonna change anything!!
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13. April 2006 @ 10:36 |
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why change it if it ain't broke? i see no reason to~
docTy~
p.s. i've used TYG01/TYG02/TYG03, YUDEN000T02 (and 5 YUDEN000T03s to be exact) and MCC003/MCC004 thus far on my benqs, with the TYs, probably around 200 now, and the 8x DVD+R Verbs MCC003 about 150, only about 30 with the MCC004...so, my experience is not nearly as much as catfreaks, but, i got an endless supply of TY so i need not worry what the future will bring...
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
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13. April 2006 @ 10:46 |
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@kivory666
Do you know, or have seen any difference between the SONY TY with accucore on the disc and without it on the disc, quality etc. wise. Thanks Storm~
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13. April 2006 @ 10:52 |
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@ Doc
I know that this is waaay off topic but ..
My Doc has me putting Nevanac in my right eye twice a day and in my left thrice a day ..
He also has me putting Econopred in each eye twice daily ...
Darn! This stuff gets me so wired that I flash back to my tweeking days back in the late 70's ...
What's up with this stuff??
Victor
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13. April 2006 @ 11:09 |
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@catfreak
what ur doc has you on right now are some of the VERY few FDA approved drugs post cataract surgery...these are actually highly concentrated, but prove to be very good in relieving ocular pain and inflammation...your daily dosage is right "on par" with what should be prescribed~ :)
as to the econopred, if you start getting reactionary symptoms to it, DO NOT stop using it, but rather just lower the dosage...much like the Nevanac, it's primary use is to combat infection, reduce swelling/inflammation...
post surgery, especially the Nevanac, has proven to be quite beneficiary for ocular healing...it's strong stuff, but it works :)
it's like super-aspirin for the eyes, which is probably why you are experiencing these "wired" sensations...wish you a quick recovery my friend...seeing as you use your eyes daily, keep the dosages regular~
docTY
@storm
i see no difference between the "accucore" on the label and the ones without..."accucore" is just Sony's "marketing technology" as i like to call it...gives them more "umph" in the market using a "promotional catch phrase" sort to speak...the Sony TYs are TYs, it's just the "branding" that is different, not the actual discs themselves (if you get the MIJ ones produced by TY, then they are TY quality, nothing less, nothing more)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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Steve83
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13. April 2006 @ 12:46 |
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So now that I can finally afford a DL 16x Plextor burner, and 8x TY discs, I'm stuck buying 4x ProDisc -Rs when I need silver printed hubs? That SUX!
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13. April 2006 @ 15:50 |
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@Steve83
Just my 2 cents but I'd stay away from the Prodisc silver inkjet. Used them with inconsistent results. Plus they're not really silver more goldish actually but haven't used them in over a year so maybe they are now silver.
I do use the silver inkjet TY's which I prefer for some covers but if I can't I then use the full hub white TY's.
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13. April 2006 @ 16:13 |
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My first 99 on the Nero speed test today.
I was confused about this because the disk to disk
burn went through at 16x rather than my preferred setting
of 4x.
That setting of burn speed is another issue: there seems
to be no way to set 4x burn permanently with it being
reset the next time the program is started. And with a
disk to disk copy no confirmation is available at all.
But that's an issue for the Nero forum.
I'm wondering here why the TY G02 media swirling through
at 16x gave such a superior result. I am on my first
spindle of Ty's from Supermedia and this is the first
99 I got.
Thanks for providing all the good media advice. :-)
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Steve83
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13. April 2006 @ 18:25 |
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They're perfectly silver, and I've gotten consistently good burns & prints on the last 100 spindle, but I wanted to upgrade to TYs or anything better this spindle around.
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delateur
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13. April 2006 @ 18:55 |
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Ok, so for those of you using a Benq and high end media (TY, Verbatim is what I use), do you recommend using WOPC, since it seems to be a setting that is reserved for lower quality media? Any thoughts and/or tests people have done to see if there's a difference in burn quality?
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13. April 2006 @ 20:09 |
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i just did Holloween resurrection with dvd shrink.took awhile to finish but when got to the end it never closed out. the disc is fine im gonna post the info from nero on the disc. if someone see's something odd could ya please let me know? i know its not about TY's but i did see something about 16x verbs thats what i used here i got the MCC004 is this good? once again sorry bout the post here but didnt really know where to post it?
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: : Verbatim
MID : MCC 004 (000)
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X
Blank Capacity : n/a
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X - 16 X
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 E4 8F 00 00 00 00 - .........%......
0010 - 00 00 07 4D 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 34 00 38 - ...MCC.....004.8
0020 - 23 54 37 12 02 54 6C 02 92 5F 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 - #T7..Tl.._......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
0040 - 01 00 38 38 02 2C 5A 1A 05 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 - ..88.,Z...#.....
0050 - 00 00 02 2C 5A 1A 05 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 00 00 - ...,Z...#.......
0060 - 02 00 54 70 02 30 63 3C 24 14 0C 0C 01 20 00 00 - ..Tp.0c<$.......
0070 - 00 00 02 40 66 42 24 14 0C 0C 01 20 00 00 00 2B - ...@fB$........+
0080 - 03 00 54 DF 02 30 63 3C 24 14 0C 0C 01 20 00 00 - ..T..0c<$.......
0090 - 00 00 02 75 5E 58 24 14 0A 0A 01 20 00 00 00 59 - ...u^X$........Y
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