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Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread
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21. April 2006 @ 19:26 |
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@CincyRob Anything you aren't clear on, PM me and I'll help you out.
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21. April 2006 @ 19:51 |
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Yeah, my head started spinning when I saw what was involved in backing up PS games. Tokijin, I salute you!
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21. April 2006 @ 20:20 |
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21. April 2006 @ 20:20 |
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tokijin when i get into trying the ps2's i will talk to you alot. these games are to costly to not back them up. and a 8year old can ruin them quick
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21. April 2006 @ 21:30 |
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cincyrob ,remember you will need a mod chip before the backup games will work on your PS2
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delateur
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22. April 2006 @ 11:29 |
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@CincyRob: A modchip is one choice for backups, but if you aren't confident in your soldering skills (especially with the newer, smaller PSTwo), I'd recommend Swap Magic and one of the many Magic Key sets out there designed to work in conjunction with Swap Magic (the general idea is this disc boots your system, you then take that disc out and put in your backup. The Magic Keys ensure that the three buttons on your PS2 stay depressed so that the system does not detect the lid of the PS2 being open). I've used Swap Magic for quite awhile now (mainly to keep my originals pristine, but also to play some imports), and it works without a hitch.
As for burning games, I've experimented a bit with different medias and what I've found for backups on the PS2 is this:
DVD-Rs typically work fine, every bit as good as DVD+Rs booktyped to DVD-ROM. DVD+Rs that aren't booktyped have a hard time playing in the PS2, and on my system will either fail to boot or will freeze at some point, no matter how good the quality of the burn I made. The burning speed of the media varies with the media used, but if you're using a decent drive and decent media, burning at 8x, assuming 8x or higher media, has always produced a fine quality disc. I've also found that burning 16x media at 12x (DVD+R to -ROM) produces the same quality (excellent) as 8x. I would also mention I've seen some amazing scans of 16x media burned at 12x from others, but if you feel safer with 8x, the differences will be minimal and you're still going to produce a great backup.
Cheers!
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22. April 2006 @ 13:18 |
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hehehe, well, tokijin is def. the person i PERSONALLY turn to with any and all PS2 related questions, i don't have a PS2 currently, but my little cousin does...next time i go over to visit him, i'm going to be contacting you tokijin~ :)
anyways, not much i can add to PS2 related backups, never done it before, so, you guys may continue now....
have a good one all
docTY~
edit: @ teflonmyk
hi buddy, i'm curious to see what YOU actually receive with the inkjet printable TYs, please let us all know once you receive them and tell us how they perform for ya~ :) i rarely do inkjet printables TYs anymore, but i still have quite a few of the silver non-hub printables left, those would be MY personal favorite for TY printables...juss my preference, i like how they look once printed upon~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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22. April 2006 @ 13:32 |
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I should receive them Wednesday, and I will backup a couple of the new releases... I will definitely post with the results. Maybe even a scan or two...
Dropbox: http://db.tt/p5P9bH1d
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22. April 2006 @ 13:44 |
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sweet, am looking forward to your results~ :)
have a great weekend my friend.
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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22. April 2006 @ 20:19 |
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Word. Looking forward to it Doc.
@Delateur A lot of what're you saying is accurate, but it's hard to give universal guidelines when it comes to burning PS2 games. Everybody's setup is different. I know you're just sharing what works for you. I used to do that, but it just became too much of a hassle. I simply adjust to the situation I'm dealing with nowadays. The results are much better. :)
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tcwas
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22. April 2006 @ 22:17 |
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delateur
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22. April 2006 @ 22:35 |
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@Tokijin: Yes, that is probably true. I'm sure with all the valuable information CincyRob is picking up from here, he'll have great success with backing up his PS2 discs. :)
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22. April 2006 @ 22:38 |
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Yes those're good. Unless you're interested in printing, then go with non printables, you'll save some money.
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22. April 2006 @ 23:27 |
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tcwas , YES thoses are very good ,meritline has a deal 300 pack TYGO2s DVD-R for 70.95 with free shipping if your looking for a bigger amount
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23. April 2006 @ 00:59 |
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Indeed. The only reason I say that, is I used to tell people burn PS2 games at speed X, and every wisenheimer wanted to argue and question me, even though they had no idea what they were talking about. I got so tired of people that insisted that their burn speed was the way to go. Now I don't bother with the PS2 forums here nowadays, not worth my time. The information you provided is accurate, I just don't want to see you venture into the PS2 forums and endure some of the shit I had to put up with. Cheers!
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Jurgennop
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23. April 2006 @ 02:57 |
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i have a question,if you backed up a game on let's say a not so good brand of disc,and then you want to burn it again on a TY or verb,will the quality be top then? and with this i mean,after extracting the iso from the not so good backup,storing that extracted iso on your HD and then backing it up on TY or verb...
or will the quality depend on the not so good backup you extracted the iso from?
I hope someone understands the question,sorry for not explaining better....
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23. April 2006 @ 05:51 |
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@Jurgennop
Depends upon the quality of the original burn how many errors are on it, if you are lucky, try ripping the .iso on the same drive you burned the disk, and hope that it doesn't pick up too many errors. Sometimes you get lucky and the original drive is able to read things other drives may miss or skip over as errors. Just remember, a copy will never be better than the original, it may seem better because the information stored on a good quality disk may be easier to read by most drives, but if the error is present on the original, it will be copied onto the new disk as well. I hope that this answers your question.
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23. April 2006 @ 11:38 |
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Thanks for all the help everyone. i just bought AnyDVD, the best thing i ever did. might have to break down and now swtich from verbs to nothing but TY's but i do love them verbs. got a question about the thermal hubs. says these are printable does that me if you dont have the thermal hubs you shouldnt put the printable cover over that? the 16x DVD+R verbs i just got i think are these thermal hubs i cant see through it. the other verbs i have had which were 8x +r's had a clear hub. i have put covers over both of these. not all but about half is this a good thing to be doing?
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23. April 2006 @ 12:25 |
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If you're talking about a stick-on printable label on discs, No that is not a good thing to do. It will over time degrade the DVD coating. Either use a Sharpie or use injet printable media. No stick-ons!
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23. April 2006 @ 13:02 |
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Hello guys.
I am about to purchase my first batch of Taiyo Yuden DVDs. But I am looking for a little assistance before I buy. I live in the UK and am looking for a UK online retailer that will sell TYG02 discs at a decent price. I have come across SVP and checked out their Taiyo Yudens.
Found a 100 pack of 8x 4.7GB DVD-R at SVP http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=228
Is that the best deal I can find?
It says unbranded though. Does that mean the face of the DVDs will be blank? I'm not looking to print btw, so don't want printables. I just want to label with a pen. And what's silver thermal lacquer all about? What is it exactly?
I did post for some help on a different thread but realised it may be more appropriate here. After reading quite a few pages of this thread I discover the Doc's like got a PhD in Taiyo Yuden DVDs LOL, so any help from any of you knowledgable people will be great!
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23. April 2006 @ 15:43 |
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what about putting the stickon's on the hub only?
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23. April 2006 @ 16:24 |
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Unless you have precut stickers or can cut a perfect circle so the disc is balanced then I wouldn't bother. If it's on clear plastic I assume it wouldn't harm the disc. The disc has to be balanced so as not to put stain on your drive. A small sticker might be more prone to come off and really gum up the works. Asking for trouble, besides what size font or info could you possibly put in such a small space?
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23. April 2006 @ 16:36 |
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some libraries put stickers identifying the library on the hub and it doesn't seem to hurt ...
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23. April 2006 @ 16:56 |
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that right catfreak our library does that. that is what i am talking about. and i do have the precut label that go on the disc. i havent had a problem with them yet. am curious if it would be a problem.
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23. April 2006 @ 17:42 |
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Read the article that I started this thread about .. it states several interesting things .. like how printing on a disc can throw the balance off and how labels can actually help strengthen the weak side of a CD ... and much much more ...
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/334536
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