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Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread
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10. August 2006 @ 13:49 |
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Check the code on the inner hub on the bottom of the disc, right where it is divided from the data portion of the disc. This should say read GGxxxxx where xxxxxx is the batch number. That's the problem with Media ID's, they're easily faked, the codes on the inner hub of the disc are never faked to my knowledge.
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10. August 2006 @ 14:03 |
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10. August 2006 @ 15:36 |
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@Tokijin,
I understand your dilemma with going to Sam's Club. I have a card through work and have to pay cash (or equivilant) to purchase. Yeh Yeh, I do have the card. Can't you find someone who likes you enough to take you there so you can at least buy media. LOL. $.33 each is hard to beat for great media. I made the mistake of not stocking up on those 75 packs and they are all 16X media now. Give the friend thing a try, heck even offer to buy them a hotdog if they go. LOL.
@cincyrob,
First two burns with the Sony DVD-R 16X (TYG03) are perfect enough for me (95 & 97). Sorry for not providing a scan. Working on that ability. lol. Lite-on SOHW-1673S burner burning at 8X. Re-authered one with DVDShrink just the main movie and the picture is great, no pixelation. So for those of you looking for TYG03 for $.30 each they are available almost every week at one the BIG retail stores. I know DVD-RB is the way to go on a big movie but my sssslllooowwww computer can't handle that proggy with efficiency. Looking at getting AnyDVD and/or CloneDVD2 any thoughts from you educated folks? Would I notice a difference in speed or quality?
@Catfreak,
I could've gone a long time w/o seeing a wrestling rotisserie! LOL.
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10. August 2006 @ 15:49 |
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My neighbor has a Sam's Club card, she seemed unwilling to let me borrow it. Yeah that is a great deal, but there's comparable deals online, maybe a little more. I've got like 150 TYG03's, no idea what to do with those, I guess data and the occasional movie. Thing is, I rarely ever burn movies anymore. I feel ya on the DVD-RB+CCE deal, simply takes too long. My OEM mobo and Celly don't do video encoding well. The quality is terrific, but you pretty much have to set it overnight, even with a power rig. I just use Nero Recode with DVD Region+CSS Free. The quality's decent (by my standards), and it doesn't take 6 hours. Even that takes an hour and a half on my PC. CloneDVD2 is very fast, the quality leaves a bit to be desired. If time is a pressing issue, that's probably the way to go.
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10. August 2006 @ 16:12 |
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Clonedvd2 is probably a good choice to use with slower pc's. Descent quality, good features, and faster than most apps. Although rb/cce/procoder2 provides unrivaled video quality it is extremely cpu intensive. After I strip out all previews, warning screens, and adverts leaving a functional menu, the movie, and extras (about 6.5 - 6.8 gb remaining on average), with my set up it takes about 2 - 2 1/2 hours for rebuilder to complete on average.
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10. August 2006 @ 17:09 |
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Wouldn't all that time be better spent if you just backed it up with a DL disc. You get exact copy and it's over quick. JM2C.
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10. August 2006 @ 17:25 |
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@greensman..
hope ya like them 16x-r's i love them, got about 16 burns with them now and not a bad one in the bunch....
anyone seen or heard from our buddy docTY???
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10. August 2006 @ 18:07 |
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garmoon,
Time is no concern. The pc is doing all the work. I wouldn't want all the garbage (previews, warning screens, and adverts) on my backup even if I used a DL dvd so I would still edit them out and there would be wasted space on the disc. I use primarily injet hub printable media. I don't think there is any verbatim DL hub printable media available. Even the DL printable (non hub) media costs about $3.00 a disc where my verbatim DVD+R SL hub printables cost around 50 cents a disc. With rb/cce/procoder2 there is very little if any video quality loss and thats even viewing on my 52" HDTV. Besides I consider the whole process a challenge and something to be proud of when I'm done.
Anybody can spend 4 times as much for a DL disc and make a 1:1 backup but how many can edit and compress a DL dvd down to a SL dvd and still have full menu functionality, the extras, and look as good as the original. Sure my software wasn't free but it will pay for itself in the long run. I have used some DL media but it was for projects that the original folder was over 12 gb and I compressed it to fit on a DL dvd.
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10. August 2006 @ 19:14 |
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you the man mort81. wish i had the time and know how to do it the way you do it. i agree with you in takeing pride in what i accomplish with this stuff... i think this is the best fun i have had, (not worring the wife wouldnt approve of my other type of fun)..lol
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10. August 2006 @ 19:26 |
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cincyrob,
Thanks. It's really just a hobby and fun but still something to take pride in ya know. One of these days I'm gonna build another pc using a dual core cpu but that hobby is much more expensive.
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10. August 2006 @ 19:59 |
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Mort81
i understand that... i was gonna build me one this year but a little layoff for the wife happend unexspectedly, so need to pinch some pennies...told her income tax time im gonna build me one....lol that will be my challenge for the year there. i have allready made up my mind though to get next year what i want right now cause you know the puter world allways something bigger and better 5 min's after you buy something
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11. August 2006 @ 03:12 |
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As far as DVD-RB/CCE or ProCoder2:
To those who haven't used DVD-RB: It's not nearly as hard or inconvenient to use as people make it out to be. I use the batch mode a lot and let several projects encode overnight. I don't use it on EVERY backup. Here is my strategy:
100 - 90% compression CloneDVD2 AVG 20 min
89 - 70% compression Recode2 w/ Adv Analysis AVG 45 min
any more compression DVD-RB w/ CCE or Procoder2 AVG 210 min
A lot of people give you times for 3 or more passes with CCE. I find that 2 passes yields INCREDIBLE quality. I also view mine on a 52 inch HDTV, and I am pretty critical!
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11. August 2006 @ 08:33 |
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Admittedly, I've only used CCE one or twice, notably to convert FFVII Advent Children from AVI to DVD. In fact I used it in combo with Avi2DVD and the quality was amazing. Looks as good as the original. However, I used it with CCE set to 4 passes and it took 12 hours!!! Even two would take approx 6 hours by those standards. So for me, video encoding is a four letter word. If you look at Mort's sig, he's got a power rig to be sure. I have an OEM Dell Dimension 2400 with an OEM processor and mobo. I have a GB of memory (2 512's, 1 PNY Tech 1 crucial.com), but I've come to understand that the L2 cache on my Celeron is only 256kB's, which really limits CPU intensive activities like video encoding. I use my Xbox as a media center, so in effect, I take video encoding out of the equation. That to me is the ultimate solution. However, if I didn't have a modified Xbox and I had a PC like Mort's, I would definitely use DVD-RB+CCE.
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11. August 2006 @ 08:37 |
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I'll throw another vote toward DVD-RB. I've used it for some time to do simple movie-only backups: main video title, primary audio, and sometimes subtitles. It produces excellent quality with Procoder. Even at Mastering (best) level, most encodes complete around 200 minutes.
It is VERY easy to use and there is no reason not to try it out. The installation is a breeze, especially if you have the encoder already installed. Everything is ready to go and a one-click mode gets you off and running in no time.
There are quite a few features to allow fairly extensive and complex customizing. The most recent version adds an embedded video preview which makes the job even easier.
Cost is not a big deal since you don't need to purchase CCE or Procoder. The installion comes with several encoders that deliver adequate results, certainly good enough to get you started. After viewing the encoded material, you can decide if you need to upgrade to the commercial encoders.
Lastly, it always works. It is very stable, installs in a breeze, hides complexity very well, easy to operate and use, and just plain user friendly.
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11. August 2006 @ 08:52 |
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@ Mort81
I understand it's the challenge that makes this all fun. I seldom use those DLs either. It wouldn't be any fun if it were like copying a VHS tape with no encryptions.
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11. August 2006 @ 11:30 |
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I agree as far as DL backups. I've rebuilt several Xbox games to DVD-5. I can't justify the cost of DL media, so what if I have to delete some worthless cinema sequences, better than paying $2-$4 a disc.
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11. August 2006 @ 14:51 |
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My friend has a Sony burner and had no luck with TY whatsoever, both 4x or 8x, so has always stuck with Verbatims....has 100% success with them.
Now I've got my own burner (Pioneer D109) I've been using
Verbatims too, because of her experience with TY.
Can anyone tell me if/why I should change to TY? I really
would like to know your opinions as I haven't had one coaster
with Verbs. Thanks.
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11. August 2006 @ 15:06 |
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If aint broke, don't fix it. If your burners/players like Verb's, stick with em.
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11. August 2006 @ 17:15 |
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Do you have a date for TY Lightscribe CD-r and DVD-R.
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11. August 2006 @ 18:01 |
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I'm doing more burns and scans with the latest batch of TYG02 on a new 1650. I am finding burns at 4x, rather than 8x, are measurable improved. Is this expected, are you all burning at 4x or 8x?
And I'm growing more pissed that the 1/2 tub of the older TY order is getting ready to go into the trash bin as I can not get any decent burns at all from that batch anymore.
I'm starting to wonder if I got a bad drive. Something does not seem right.
thx
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11. August 2006 @ 19:32 |
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windtrade,
Try some +r media with your 1650 whether they be TY's or verbatim's really shouldn't matter. The benq's tend to prefer and perform better with +r media. I'm not saying they won't burn -r ok but rather they normally burn +r better.
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11. August 2006 @ 20:52 |
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@windtrade
I burn the TY 8x at 8x. Sometimes at 12x if using Nero and forget to change the burn speed.
Here's a scan on a older Pioneer burned at 8x - I'll have to try and find at 12x burn to scan.
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11. August 2006 @ 21:00 |
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I always burn at 8x nowadays, owe that to Doc. I'm hesitant to try new things, but burning to the edge at 4x takes about 15 minutes, just too long for my liking. 8x on Yuden000T02 works flawlessly, same scores as 4x burns as the most part. Windtrade, don't obsess over quality scores too much, how is the playback on those TYG02's?
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11. August 2006 @ 21:20 |
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8x here also. i would say 8x is more the norm now compared to 4x a couple years ago. i run a quality scan now and then but come up with the same score almost every time so playback is what i go on the most also
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11. August 2006 @ 21:51 |
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I agree on not obesessing with the scan results. Here's an scan on an older burn that plays great and I can still rip to my hard drive - not TY & think the burn speed was 4x:
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