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Wii Firmware Updates, Wii and WiiKey Resources
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PsyKid
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25. February 2008 @ 23:42 |
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I just got a message from Nintendo regarding updating to 3.2U. I am going to install my Wiikey in a few days so I can play a burned copy of Japanese Brawl, but should I go ahead and update to 3.2U? Or will they render the Wiikey/Brawl useless? Should I install the Wiikey, let Brawl update, and then update to 3.2U?
Need some input here before I try to update to 3.2U, if at all. Thanks.
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PsyKid
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25. February 2008 @ 23:48 |
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Ugh, I don't mean to double post but I couldn't see an option to edit my post.
If I wait and install the update on the Japanese Brawl onto my American Wii, and then update to 3.2U, will that screw it up? I need as much info as possible about this, so I'm posting different scenarios. Thanks.
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rafadawn
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26. February 2008 @ 04:50 |
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The update has been reported as safe for Wiikey and other chips.
It is also safe for SMG and SSBB. It actually seems to improve system and drive performances as per specs:
Nintendo Official Specs
Originally posted by PsyKid:
I just got a message from Nintendo regarding updating to 3.2U. I am going to install my Wiikey in a few days so I can play a burned copy of Japanese Brawl, but should I go ahead and update to 3.2U? Or will they render the Wiikey/Brawl useless? Should I install the Wiikey, let Brawl update, and then update to 3.2U?
Need some input here before I try to update to 3.2U, if at all. Thanks.
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lintball
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26. February 2008 @ 07:03 |
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I need some help. I've had a Wiikey installed for about 10 months, did the 1.9g? update to run SMG. I haven't tried to run any new/different games since Dec when everything was working great. Now, on any backup I get "cannot read disc". Real games work fine.
I tried to download the config discs in this thread, but they won't load either. I don't think my media/burner/Nero are the problem because I've got many DVDRs that used to work and I still use the same media.
I suspect a solder point has come loose as I did recently move some TV furniture around and might have shaken the wii a little.
Anything else to try before I painfully disassemble my wii again?
Thanks!
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26. February 2008 @ 14:08 |
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I have a question about Action Replay.
Should i buy the new one or the old one?
I ordered 2 GB Micro SD and Gecko SD Adapter and when i got them i realized that i need Action Replay to run GC homebrews. I also bought wireless sensor bar so it's easier to use the wiimote as PC mouse or in games.
By the way, haven't got my wiikey working, but if i can run GC backups from SD card then i'll put the GC config disc to the card and set my region settings on.
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26. February 2008 @ 15:12 |
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Problem!
Since the new update which i did the other day, none of my backups are working!
It will recognized them in the disc channel, but when i hit 'start' they all say 'disc could not be read'
they were all working before update...
is there a new firmware i need to get or something?
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26. February 2008 @ 15:56 |
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Originally posted by mahteen:
Problem!
Since the new update which i did the other day, none of my backups are working!
It will recognized them in the disc channel, but when i hit 'start' they all say 'disc could not be read'
they were all working before update...
is there a new firmware i need to get or something?
Maybe you have to put your region override on again?
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. February 2008 @ 16:51
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PsyKid
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26. February 2008 @ 21:55 |
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Hey, when installing my Wiikey, I just place the chip on the correct points and solder them, right? I'm getting conflicting information. This site here says it's just quick-solder points, no wires needed:
http://www.ps2cover.com/wiikey-installation.shtml
However, a post in another topic shows a whole mess of wires. Here is a picture of it: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/herbrokendreamz/101_3850.jpg
Does the Wiikey require and wires, and if so, is there an easy to follow guide that tells exactly where they need to go?
For the record, I got my Wii on launch night, so it's one of the oldest ones.
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rafadawn
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27. February 2008 @ 07:59 |
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I personally prefer the wire install as opposed to the quick-sp;der one.
Wire Install Guide
In case you want to use the quick-solder one, here is a good way to do it:
instructions
Remember that things are a lot smaller than those close-up pictures. Main problem: Heat-trnsfer
Use low-wattage iron and practice on a scrap board if you have no soldering experience.
Originally posted by PsyKid:
Hey, when installing my Wiikey, I just place the chip on the correct points and solder them, right? I'm getting conflicting information. This site here says it's just quick-solder points, no wires needed:
http://www.ps2cover.com/wiikey-installation.shtml
However, a post in another topic shows a whole mess of wires. Here is a picture of it: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/herbrokendreamz/101_3850.jpg
Does the Wiikey require and wires, and if so, is there an easy to follow guide that tells exactly where they need to go?
For the record, I got my Wii on launch night, so it's one of the oldest ones.
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27. February 2008 @ 19:43 |
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So... since the update that was released (and a road trip in my bouncy truck) my wii is no longer reading my backups.. but it does recognize the games in the disc channel..
say i put in mario strikers, it shows up in the disc channel, and when i hit start it starts loading, but then stops and says 'the disc cannot be read'
is it possible that one of my solder points came loose? would the wiikey still be able to recognize the games but not play them if that happened?
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rafadawn
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27. February 2008 @ 20:26 |
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Yes it is possible.
Originally posted by mahteen:
So... since the update that was released (and a road trip in my bouncy truck) my wii is no longer reading my backups.. but it does recognize the games in the disc channel..
say i put in mario strikers, it shows up in the disc channel, and when i hit start it starts loading, but then stops and says 'the disc cannot be read'
is it possible that one of my solder points came loose? would the wiikey still be able to recognize the games but not play them if that happened?
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jtr311
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28. February 2008 @ 01:29 |
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Ok...Just checking out some info on mod chips, and the update 3.2, and found out some interesting stuff. I have a Wiikey ordered from modchipstore.com, and backed my Super Mario Galaxy to DVD+R, from my Pioneer(What ever version). I'm a total noob at all this, and already found out a few things I am doing wrong.
Note: I have not got my Wiikey in yet, and this is not because of and install issue. Just want to get some facts straight before I got it and waste my time.
1. I see I am suppose to use single layered DVD-R
2. I also see I need to have a Special LG GDR-8164B DVD-ROM for Wii backups.
3. I have just got my Wii, (not even a week ago), and already updated. I am guessing the newest update 3.2
So what I am wanting to know is what else do I need before this gets out of hand. Do I absolutely need that LG GDR-8164B, or does my Pioneer DVD-ROM work. I back up my disc with a program called ImgBurn, and it burnt it, and verified it with no issues. May I remind you...on a Sony DVD+R disc. So if anyone has any pointers, and some advice of what not to do...It would be a great help to me before I go and screw up my nice new little Wii. Thanx for your time guys!
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egopuda
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28. February 2008 @ 01:30 |
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Hi, long time lurker and reader of this thread.
I have a few questions that i can't figure out (even though i think you've covered everything in the last 27 pages), it has me stumped.
First i'll explain my setup
I have an older Wii NTSC-U with the GC2 D2B chip updated to 3.2U with a Wiikey installed.
I had my friend install the chip as i had no desire or capability to solder on such an expensive toy. Everything works fine with the exception of a few nuisances that i can't for the life of me figure out.
Heres the list.
Wii Originals: Work fine
Wii Backups: Work fine
Gamecube originals: Work fine
Gamecube backups: Works fine
Gcos emulators: Works fine
Wiikey config 1.2: Works fine
Wiikey config 1.3: Works fine
Wiikey 1.9g update: Loads, Tests. At end of test i get the Error: check connections firmware upgrade failed.
Wiikey 1.9b update: Loads, Tests. At end of test i get the Error: check connections firmware upgrade failed.
Wiikey 1.9b recovery: Doesn't seem to do anything at all.
All in all i'm wondering if all i'm losing out on is playing SMG, and the future SSBM due to the no go with upgrading?
Through out this massive thread i've come to the conclusion that either..
A: I have a wiikey clone.
B: I have a bad solder point.
My question for this is, if i did have a faulty solder point would my wii still play backups and function normally? I don't have a multi meter readily available but, i did order a triwing screwdriver earlier this week(come to find out it's shipping from hong kong, so who knows when it will come in) to make a physical assesment of it.
OK, onto my other dilema. Throughout reading everyone and there mother says DVD-R is the way to go. So i bought a spindle of Ritek G05 DVD-R Not a single one would burn a working WII backup. But, They make pefect Gamecube backups. I chalk it upto less then stellar medium. But, at the same time i can burn WII backups perfectly fine on some no name brand Nanya DVD+R that i got 2-3 years ago. Just seems odd.
Is it possible My personal WII just likes DVD+R over DVD-R?
I ordered 2 spindles before writing this both Verbatim. One DVD-R, one DVD+R. I guess i can answer this question myself in a few days.
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jtr311
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28. February 2008 @ 01:39 |
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What DVD-ROM burner are you using egopuda?
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egopuda
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28. February 2008 @ 03:27 |
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Originally posted by jtr311:
What DVD-ROM burner are you using egopuda?
Lite-On DVDRW LDW-411s with FSOK firmware.
It's a rather aged writer but seems to be working well at 4x burn speeds.
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jtr311
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28. February 2008 @ 12:01 |
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Cool...I'm using a Pioneer DVD-RW DVD-109 1.17 (ATA). Like yours its kind of old too, but I burt a back up through ImgBurn, and it seemed to work fine. The program even Verified it, so I hope all is well. Maybe we will get a solution on this these Wiikey 1.9 updates, so we can play our SMG, and the up coming SSBB on back up. Just want to get my moneys worth. I will post if I find a solution. I assuming that 4x burn speed is a slower setting...excuse me for being a noob at this backup stuff. Thanx m8
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lintball
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28. February 2008 @ 13:13 |
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I'm still down.
My wiikey worked fine for 9 months even after I did the 1.9 SMG update. SMG ran fine. Since Christmas (and RockBand 360), we didn't turn on the Wii for a few weeks. When I tried a DVD backup the other day, I get "cannot read disc" error, even on the config discs.
I resoldered the wiikey, still same results. It will not recognize non-original discs.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
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rafadawn
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28. February 2008 @ 17:43 |
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@jtr311:
1) You need to LG drive if you want to Back up your originals. You no do need it to burn backup discs.
2) Have you checked your Wii serial to make sure the Wiikey will work for you?
3) DVD-R are reccommended in the majority of cases (especially for Config and Update discs) however DVD+R work as well. In the end the type of media and the burning speed will depend on the burner you have.
@egopuda:
4) As far as the type of media, read 3) above. (If DVD+R discs work, then use them)
5) Early mod chip development for the Wii focused on 5 solder points. However those chips did not have the ability to update via a dvd disc. When the Wiikey introduced the 6 solder points setup, then it also allowed for updates from discs. So the answer is yes, you might have a bad solder joint (or a clone chip)
@lintball:
When discs in Wii mode cannot be read, then the ONLY alternative are discs in GCOS mode. See if your Wii recognizes and can run GCOS discs.
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NOTE TO ALL:
Besides clone chips or soldering problems, one possible cause of 1.9g problems is corruption of the chip Firmware.
In particular, I think that it is worth noting that burning a Wiikey update disc on low-quality media, or on a comouter running other processes as you burn the disc, may cause a corrupt update for your Wii.
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jtr311
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28. February 2008 @ 18:37 |
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You know...I have not checked that, because the Wiikey I ordered Featured this.
# Direct boot of NTSC Wii imports on NTSC consoles (no patch needed)
# Direct boot of PAL Wii imports on NTSC consoles (no patch needed, partial compatibility)
# Direct boot of NTSC Wii imports on PAL consoles (no patch needed, partial compatibility
# Direct boot of wii backups
# Direct boot of GC backups
# Direct boot of homebrew in GC mode
# Supports all currently available console/drive versions
# Supports D2B chipsets
# Sophisticated (true) update mechanism via DVD (future proof, expect cool features to come)
# Direct boot of different NTSC region Wii games/backups on US and JAP consoles
# Partial support for NTSC region Wii games/backups on PAL consoles
# Boots different region GC games/backups (partially without swapping)
# Supports multi-disc games for BOTH Wii and Gamecube
# Supports DVD-R / true DVD+R and +RW support (no bitsetting required!)
# Improved readsettings for recordable media
# Built-in audio fix
# Supports fullsize 4GB discs for gamecube homebrew
# Stealth mode
# 512 byte EEPROM to store configuration
# Quicksolder interface - no wires required
# Unique disc backup application via sdcard
# Compact design, best quality components, rock solid high speed controller
# Professional ESD packing
# Recovery mode - Can recover from a bad flash
So no...I have not checked my Serial number to compare...Like I said, I'm a noob at this. Don't even know how to do that. I ordered the newest Wiikey, and have the newest Wii console. I really do appreciate your fast resonse, and this really help out alot....thanx!!!
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rafadawn
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28. February 2008 @ 19:37 |
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Check your serial here.
If you have a D2C chip, you will not be able to use the Wiikey.
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hoclo
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29. February 2008 @ 06:29 |
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To those who have the "Error: check connections firmware upgrade failed." problem for the updates:
I have a DMS PAL Wii.
In the first post of this thread, it says "I reccommend running the Config and Update files in GCOS mode", which is what I did. The Config 1.2 ran fine, but when I did the testing part for update 1.9b and 1.9g, the "Error: check connections firmware upgrade failed." came up.
So I burnt another copy of the update 1.9b, but this time without making it a GCOS disk. It worked, the error didn't come up, and I was able to update. I did the same for 1.9g, and also worked.
Hope this helps :D
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lintball
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29. February 2008 @ 06:37 |
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Hate to sound dumb, but what exactly is "GCOS mode"? I think it means running a gamecube game?
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jtr311
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29. February 2008 @ 14:09 |
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WTF...after following the link to check my serial with.
There is a 50% chance that your drive chip is a GC2-D2C
There is a 50% chance that the pins on your drive chip are not cut.
That kind of makes me 50% mad!!!
So if I do have a darn D2C chip, what do I need?!?!...The D2Ckey?
What does the pins being cut or not cut mean? I'm not the one doing the soldering. FYI
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egopuda
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29. February 2008 @ 16:50 |
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Update for my WII.
Verbatim DVD-R works great about 95% of burns only had one that gave DRE on the WII menu Disc icon and 1 that loads the WII menu disc icon, hit start, then i get the cannot read disc error. I don't understand why it would initially load but can't read after the start though.
Haven't tried the spool of verbatim DVD+R yet as the DVD-R are working quite well.
Still no go with 1.9g update though. Even when burned to the verbatim DVD-R.
Also still wondering if 1.9g update justs holds me back from playing SMG and future SSBM? If thats all the update does then i can live with out it.
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dnccall
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1. March 2008 @ 09:38 |
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I have been playing SMG (original) for months and Wii has always been at 3.0U. My mod wii is not online and SMG never asked to upgrade to 3.1U (if it did, I didn't see it). Is there any way to still upgrade to 3.1U from the SMG disk? I want to be sure I have all the latest before trying SSBB. Thanks.
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