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ScubaPete
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8. October 2005 @ 18:11 |
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I wasn't able to tweak the movie
Settings, Encoding ~
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but I wasn't able to tweak the movie or make it wide screen or full screen. I did have options under Aspect which were Automatic, Force 4:3, and Force 16:9.
To make it wide screen, choose, "Force 16:9".
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the clip I was using "The Longest Yard".
I had problems with that also, try downloading it in Bin Cue format, though I had problems getting a download without a corrupt file, they're out there.
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Another thing I have read that I am doing wrong is surfing the net and downloading other files while using DVD Shrink and DVDD.
If you have enough RAM that is free and available, i.e. 1024MB with 92% free, DVD Shrink can be used because it will take a "second seat" while encoding and recoding though it will add to your time. DVD Decrypter requires all of your resources while burning and shouldn't be "shared" with other tasks. In most cases, when you download, you're also uploading so you are using a lot more resources than you think. It's best to do one thing at a time.
I'm assuming you have a better PC than I do in order to multi-task but still, you shouldn't "push" it.
My system: Pent 4, 2.84 GHz w/ 1024MB of RAM. (I call it my "Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo.) If you system isn't that strong remember, "You can't pull a 24' boat up a mountain with VW Bug."
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What registry cleaner do you recommend?
Here are 2:
RegClean version 4.1a (FREE) A good registry cleaner with a can't beat price :)
http://www.download.com/3000-2094-881470.html?tag=list
System Mechanic 5 (30-days trial, 49.99) An excellent registry cleaner as well as an all around PC maintenance program.
http://www.iolo.com/sm/index.cfm
Cheers,
Pete
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nghivo
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11. October 2005 @ 09:21 |
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ScubaPete:
Thanks for your response. I played with my system for a while then it looked like that I had a bad hard disk, although chkdsk reports no problem with the hard disk.
Problem went away when I used a new hard disk to keep intermediate files.
I have burned some discs and obeserved that:
1. DVDDecrypter + DVDShrink is the best couple, better than Nero. Using DVDDecryter+DVDShrink takes about 6 hours to complete backup one disc, while Nero takes about 4 hour, but the copule makes the copy fully functional like the original one. The one I used Nero to backup gives me some problem with the menu and chapter.
Strongly recommend using the couple.
2. Never burn a disc with speed more than 4x. As low as 2x if possible to avoid unusable final disc. 8x is definitely creating problem.
3. There maybe many ways to backup disc, but creating the ISO file is probably the best way. Slow but guarantee success.
4. Your guide and other guides in this thread on how to use DVDDecrypter+DVDShrink are excelllent documents. Can not go wrong.
Thanks
Now I have another question. Is there any way we can automate the shrinking process ??? Like loading DVDShrink to shrink a VIDEO_TS folder, when done, go to another folder to shrink, when done, go to another folder to shrink ???????
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Johny77
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11. October 2005 @ 15:25 |
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Question For Scuba Pete?
I have been burning DVD's with Decrypter and Shrink and everythin works fine except when verifying disk after burning it get to about 96% verifying before getting a error, thing is that they play fine in my dvd player with no problems all the way through, what gives and why am I gettin this error??
thanks
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jamram66
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11. October 2005 @ 15:48 |
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Hello all-I had a lot of the same problems with DVD Shrink, 99% of these problems are solved by spending a little money and pruchasing CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD or DVD Idle Pro. I have backed up ne dvd's the day they are released, so far done about 30 consecutive w/out any errors or wasted discs. Fast too. Hope this helps
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Johny77
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12. October 2005 @ 10:45 |
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I have been using AnyDVD and things rip fine and write fine with DVD Decrypter, its after the writing and its been ripped that it verifys content with hard drive ISO and it always gives error and stops, I take it to my dvd player and it works fine. So again the question is is it nessesary to verify? Another weird thing, I used a Memorex DVD the first time and it didn't have a error, every since I have been using in Sony DVDs.
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jamram66
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12. October 2005 @ 17:56 |
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once again folks I can't stress enough, stop using DVD Shrink. CloneDVD2 and DVDIdlePro is quickest and nearly error free. Most of my back-ups take only 30-45 minutes, that's from ripping to burnt product at 4x-8x, DVDIdlePro will be around a while too. It is also great for saving the life of your dvd drive, it caches your disk after about 3 minutes you are watching your dvd from your hard drive. It's clearly and unbeatable combo.
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12. October 2005 @ 19:48 |
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Stop using DVD Shrink you say? This puzzle's me a little as DVD Shrink is still the most versatile re-authoring tool out there even though it is old. If used right you can burn a perfectly good copy of a DVD with no problems. For instance,
DVDFab Decrypter to rip movie = 6 min
DVD Shrink to re-author = 5 to 15 min depends on compression
Burn the DVD at x4 = 15 min
So saying it isn't as fast just isn't true either. The point is there are many different ways to backup a DVD and everyone will have different results with different products. You just can't beat the price of the above applications though that much is true. Just use what ever works best for you. Myself I am now using DVDFab Decrypter and CloneDVD2 the most sometimes I will use Nero Recode instead of CDVD2. I guess what I am trying to say is to use what best suits your needs and works and by all means if you don't want to pay for something then DVD Shrink is always there and works perfectly fine.
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13. October 2005 @ 06:59 |
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I agree with BBMayo...use what works best for you. I primarily use the popular combo of DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink. I also use DVD Fab Decrypter, but because it runs slower on my machine than Decrypter does it is a second option.
Happy burning!
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ScubaPete
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13. October 2005 @ 18:33 |
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nghivo,
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The one I used Nero to backup gives me some problem with the menu and chapter.
Don't be hasty ~ Try using Recode2 in the Remake a DVD mode. It's easy and fun and will give you a fine backup. Keep the speed at 4X and the disc size from DVD-5, change it to "Custom" and set the size for 4300MB. It will make all the difference. DO NOT USE THE "Burn at once". DO USE "Advanced Analysis" and the "High Quality Mode", you won't be sorry :)
Pete
HiJohny77,
Turn of the "Verify", it's giving you false errors. Also, when ripping with the DVDD, go to "Tools", Settings, I/O Tab and "tick" "Ignore read errors" for better rips. It will speed your backup process along.
Cheers,
Pete
Howdy jamram66,
There's no way to go wrong with a quality program such as CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD
However, what I fail to understand is this:
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I can't stress enough, stop using DVD Shrink.
As good as CloneDVD2 is, using DVD Shrink with it's "Deep Analysis" and "Quality Controls" will give you a superior backup. I cannot believe you're against quality Quality takes time, that is a fact. A final point, has to be covered, though CloneDVD2 is a good investment at $39.99, it's still $40.00 more than DVD Shrink costs. Though, as BBMayo points out, we use what's best for each of us. I personally believe DVD Shrink should NEVER be advised against UNLESS you have some inside knowledge of something we're not aware of at this point in time.
Cheers all,
Catch ya around the "Water Cooler,"
Good to sea ya around BB,
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13. October 2005 @ 20:26 |
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Quote: For single layer DVD, I don't even use DVD Shrink. I just do a "ISO Read" then a "ISO Write" with DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 to make a 1:1 identical copy.
How do you know if you are burning a single layer DVD? Aren't all newer DVD's double layer?
Rick
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ScubaPete
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14. October 2005 @ 16:05 |
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@T140V,
I have no idea where you got that quote from. When you're going to ask a question about what someone said, include a URL link so we can sea what context it was in. This thread alone contains well over 100 posts and no one is going to begin reading through it all to attempt to find your quote.
On the face of it, it should read, "When backing up a DVD-5, use ISO read then ISO write". Single-sided discs make up 95% of the discs being used today. Very few are dual-sided. Single-sided discs can be DVD-5 discs and can be backed up by DVDD alone. DVD-9 discs cannot UNLESS you're writing to a DL disc.
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Pete
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14. October 2005 @ 16:22 |
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Look in the lower right hand corner of the top window of DVD Decrypter in file mode, it will give you a number. A single layer DVD or DVD-5 is 4.7GB or 4,700,000 Kb...a Dual layer DVD or DVD-9 is greater than that. If the movie you are backing up is a DVD-5, then all you will need is DVD Decrypter, if it's larger you'll need DVD Shrink or a similar prog.
happy burning and check scuba pete's guides through the link in his sig they are excellent, or check out some of the guides on this site.
happy burning
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ScubaPete
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14. October 2005 @ 17:30 |
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As youl sea, I mis-read his post and thought it was single-sided NOT layered.
My "Bad".
We do have to straighten out this idea of a 4.7GB being a DVD-5 though because, it does make a difference. I cannot tell you how many times I've had Newbies adding up several video clips and then attempting to burn 4.7GB's of Video to a standard DVD Disc.
The difference of 4.7GB DVD and 4.36GB DVD -
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DVD disc manufacturers love to use marketing terms and sell their discs as 4.7GB discs, but this is not true ~ the 4.7GB is calculated by using so-called "Japanese gigabytes", where the power of calculations is 1,000 instead of 1,024 (and 1.024 is the correct way to calculate everything in computer world ~ so, 1024 megabytes = 1 gigabyte). Manufacturers do this false advertising all the time so you think you are getting more than you are, They do it with Hard Drives as well so, if you buy a 200 GB Hard Drive, it isn't really 200 GB it is actually 189 GB. (I just checked my 300 GB drive and that one brought tears to my eyes. My 300 GB drive is really only 279 GB. What a rip off - Lol) At any rate, we prefer to calculate the available writing space on a DVD as 4.38 GB to include the reverse math and also provide a bit of room for overhead :-)
Once again, a 4.7 DVD disc can only hold 4.38 GB of information. The "Slide-rule types" will tell you that you can write to 4.38GB - you don't NEED to allow for overhead. I like to adjust the "DVD Target Size" to around 4300MB. It's not much difference but it will provide you with a little extra wiggle room and insure that you don't write to the very physical edge of your disc. When setting the size to 4300MB you can actually see a tiny unburned ring on the outside of your DVD backup. If you are stuck using "el Cheapo" media, try setting the DVD Target Size to 4200MB, this is one good way to reduce your "coaster Percentage". The edge of the disc is the place where the dye application tends to be uneven OR sometimes even absent causing your finished DVD backups to "shutter," "freeze" OR die.
Cheers,
Pete
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T140V
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20. October 2005 @ 07:59 |
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Has anybody out there ever had this problem? I was watching a backup that I made and 3/4 into the movie it freezes and a loud humming noise came out of my speakers. Very strange.
Rick
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20. October 2005 @ 17:55 |
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Decrease target size to 4300 ( in DVD Shrink ) and do not burn at more than 4X ( in DVD Decrypter ). It could be your media too, if you are using cmag's.
@ScubaPete
Thanks for straightening out the whole GB thing...I'll put up my slide ruler now.
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magitek12
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22. October 2005 @ 22:05 |
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Its not "Japanese gigabytes", its the difference between binary and decimal. Just thought I'd clarify.
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26. October 2005 @ 06:50 |
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Ok Ok... The Man is coming down hard on me. I just went out spent a nice amount on DVDs and got some movies. I've been doing this now for a couple months, no problems, none at all.. I've been using DVD Decrypter followed by using DVD Shrink. Two awesome programs, the other day I tried Lords of Dog Town, then last night I tried Left behind 3 and Bewitched. Guess what, they all three failed, and were all three brand new with no scratches. Well wouldn't you know it... in DVD Decrypter I get the cyclic redundancy error. So, I was like No way. So after further attempts I found out that the main movie file numero uno was marked as read only. Also, the disks type was marked on the back as DVD-L. So after some thought I got to thinking, "Could this be the infamous blue disk?" Well that's my question to you all, is the DVD-L the uncopiable disk that we've all heard of? If so, how in the world can we get around this?
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26. October 2005 @ 08:11 |
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Those 2 movies have the newer type encryption that Shrink and Decrypter have trouble with. You need to try DVD FAB decrypter (free) or run AnyDVD behind Shrink or Decrypter as before. FAB and AnyDVD are updated for the new encryptions. If you purchase AnyDVD you will get lifetime updates for the new encryptions. Not a bad deal for the price. Also check the combo price for the Anydvd/Clonedvd package. Good luck.
Jerry
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26. October 2005 @ 08:34 |
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Jerry, If this works than you are Da Man.. I will try when I get home.. Thank you!! This Site is Awsome!!!
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26. October 2005 @ 18:55 |
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It will work :-)
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26. October 2005 @ 19:13 |
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I agree it will work, I have done this movie with 5 different rippers/encoders all with AnyDVD in the background. Take it away and nothing but CRC. My two cents.
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27. October 2005 @ 02:32 |
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I actually did it with DVDFab Decrypter no AnyDVD :-)
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27. October 2005 @ 06:30 |
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Well slap me sill and call me a Cowboy! It worked... Thank you so very much for the tip!
Now the Fun can Continue.. HAHAHAHA (evil Laugh)\\//
Thanks again
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27. October 2005 @ 08:35 |
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Thats what we are here for. Glad it worked for you as it should.
Jerry
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27. October 2005 @ 19:13 |
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Slap Slap!! good job Cowboy :-)
Glad you got it going for ya!
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