PS3 compatible video creation thread (tsMuxeR etc.).
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10. March 2008 @ 04:22 |
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Originally posted by odin24: Thanks for the clarification. My sync issues are a gradual sync problem. Good at the start, off towards the end.
Hmmm, it certainly sounds like a frame rate issue. I wonder if it has anything to do with video being a Blu-ray source and the audio being from a regular DVD... Can you tell me the duration of each the video and audio prior to re-encoding?
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10. March 2008 @ 09:43 |
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ok, i got new problems now, i have converted a 1080p film, it takes up nearly all of a dual layer disc, thats not the problem.
i renamed the file .mpg, instead of .m2ts, and used Red Kawa File Server to put it onto the ps3. everything worked fine, no problems at all. now i have burnt it to the said dual layer disc with the .m2ts extention, when i try to copy it to the ps3 it gets to 25% and comes up with an error.
i have burnt it twice now, once to a normal data disc and once to a UDF_DVD disc, neither work.
i am going to copy it from the data disc to my computer later, rename it .mpg again and copy it to the ps3 using the file server again, just to make sure the data on the disc is ok still, this isnt too much trouble to do but its just annoying i cant copy it straight from the disc like i do with the others!
any ideas of a fix?
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10. March 2008 @ 10:10 |
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Originally posted by dj_3sixty: ok, i got new problems now, i have converted a 1080p film, it takes up nearly all of a dual layer disc, thats not the problem.
i renamed the file .mpg, instead of .m2ts, and used Red Kawa File Server to put it onto the ps3. everything worked fine, no problems at all. now i have burnt it to the said dual layer disc with the .m2ts extention, when i try to copy it to the ps3 it gets to 25% and comes up with an error.
i have burnt it twice now, once to a normal data disc and once to a UDF_DVD disc, neither work.
i am going to copy it from the data disc to my computer later, rename it .mpg again and copy it to the ps3 using the file server again, just to make sure the data on the disc is ok still, this isnt too much trouble to do but its just annoying i cant copy it straight from the disc like i do with the others!
any ideas of a fix?
You can copy straight from a disc to the PS3 HDD. I have done that many times. There is no file size limit that way either. I have a couple 8gb files sitting on my PS3 right now that were copied from discs.
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10. March 2008 @ 14:27 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
You can copy straight from a disc to the PS3 HDD. I have done that many times. There is no file size limit that way either. I have a couple 8gb files sitting on my PS3 right now that were copied from discs.
i know i can, and i know there is no file size limit, but with this one film it wont copy across, from the UDF_DVD or from a normal data dvd.
also the UDF_DVD wont play in my computer so i cant even test the file on the disc. i know the file was ok when i converted it cos like i said, i transfered it using the file server, but i dont wanna have to keep the file on my computer.
anyway, i'm sure i'll sort it when i have time to mess around, i got 3 more 1080p movies to convert now.
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10. March 2008 @ 16:52 |
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Originally posted by dj_3sixty: i know i can, and i know there is no file size limit, but with this one film it wont copy across, from the UDF_DVD or from a normal data dvd.
also the UDF_DVD wont play in my computer so i cant even test the file on the disc. i know the file was ok when i converted it cos like i said, i transfered it using the file server, but i dont wanna have to keep the file on my computer.
anyway, i'm sure i'll sort it when i have time to mess around, i got 3 more 1080p movies to convert now.
Wouldn't that suggest that there is something wrong with the burner not the burning software or disc file system used?
I would look into burner firmware and choice of media.
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11. March 2008 @ 06:20 |
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Hi Ryu77
I in Thailand.I Very Thank U for help me to play mkv in PS3.This my step
Step 1 I use U step and use tsMuxerGUI.exe But file mkv 1080P I can play audio but no Video.
Step 2 I use ffmpeg This my command D:\ps3\tools\ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -f h264 -i I:\h264\File4_1.h264 -f ac3 -i I:\File.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy ?bufsize 14745 I:\File.vob It same step one play audio but no video.
Step 3 I use mkv2vob I have a big file.vob but I can ply audio and video
Please Guide me to play file mkv1080P in PS3. Thanks alot.
Ps.My spec computer is low (Centrino 1.3 ram 1.5 Gb) Please Guide the way for shrot time.
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11. March 2008 @ 13:56 |
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for the love of god is there any way to take an HD MKV with DTS only and convert it to M2TS where the video and audio is not out of sync?
for DTS->AC3 I tried with with both EAC3GUI and FOOBAR2000 but when I remux with TSMUXERGUI the video and audio are out of sync. I tried putting delay of 3 ms in TSMUXER but there is still delay.
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heckubiss
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11. March 2008 @ 14:41 |
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more info.. I just realized that when I play the demuxed video file with DIVX player it tells me its only 23 mins but the original is 1 hour 49 mins
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11. March 2008 @ 15:19 |
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Originally posted by heckubiss: for the love of god is there any way to take an HD MKV with DTS only and convert it to M2TS where the video and audio is not out of sync?
for DTS->AC3 I tried with with both EAC3GUI and FOOBAR2000 but when I remux with TSMUXERGUI the video and audio are out of sync. I tried putting delay of 3 ms in TSMUXER but there is still delay.
If you're still having trouble with DTS-->AC3 all you need to do is use EAC3toGUI, no FOOBAR is required.
This is what I do.
1. load the DTS file
2. select bitrate of 640 kb/s
3. select "libav" for the Force Filter
4. Convert.
Make sure the eac3to.exe file is specified in the settings before you start. You should have no problems with syncing.
Also, try playing your M2TS files with Cyberlink DVD instead of DivX player, probably better playback... if all else fails test by streaming to your PS3. M2TS streams good with TVersity (must rename the M2TS to M2T), or Cyberlink Media Deluxe (no renaming required... this is the program I use).
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11. March 2008 @ 15:23 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77: Originally posted by dj_3sixty: i know i can, and i know there is no file size limit, but with this one film it wont copy across, from the UDF_DVD or from a normal data dvd.
also the UDF_DVD wont play in my computer so i cant even test the file on the disc. i know the file was ok when i converted it cos like i said, i transfered it using the file server, but i dont wanna have to keep the file on my computer.
anyway, i'm sure i'll sort it when i have time to mess around, i got 3 more 1080p movies to convert now.
Wouldn't that suggest that there is something wrong with the burner not the burning software or disc file system used?
I would look into burner firmware and choice of media.
i am now sure it is a fault with my ps3, not the disc or movie, if u have a chance please read this:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/638406
and see if u have any ideas.
i copied the last film u helped me with to my computer, renames it .mpg not .m2ts and used red kawa to transfer it to the hdd, and it worked fine, no problems, so it has got to be an issue with the ps3. AAARRRGGGHHH!
thanx again for all the help u have give me thus far!
3Sixty.
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11. March 2008 @ 18:21 |
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dj_3sixty, why do you say it's the PS3? I would guess it's your burner or media being used. A PC drive can often read discs that stand alone players can't. Dual layer discs can be very temperamental. What type of discs are you using? Brand? +/-?
Either that or it's your PS3 optical drive. Have you got any other discs that you can test this with? Maybe a single layer disc? Try copying over some files from other discs.
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Originally posted by ps3star: Hi Ryu77
I in Thailand.I Very Thank U for help me to play mkv in PS3.This my step
Step 1 I use U step and use tsMuxerGUI.exe But file mkv 1080P I can play audio but no Video.
Step 2 I use ffmpeg This my command D:\ps3\tools\ffmpeg.exe -r 23.976 -f h264 -i I:\h264\File4_1.h264 -f ac3 -i I:\File.ac3 -vcodec copy -acodec copy ?bufsize 14745 I:\File.vob It same step one play audio but no video.
Step 3 I use mkv2vob I have a big file.vob but I can ply audio and video
Please Guide me to play file mkv1080P in PS3. Thanks alot.
Ps.My spec computer is low (Centrino 1.3 ram 1.5 Gb) Please Guide the way for shrot time.
ps3star, I will come back and answer your question later (unless someone else can help in the interim... Hint! Hint!). I am a little busy now. :-D
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11. March 2008 @ 18:33 |
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I just updated the front page of this thread with the latest version of tsMuxeR. It has many new features now including subtitle support, Blu-ray output, de-muxing etc.
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.4.6(b).zip
Changelog:
* Version 1.4.6
- Fixed a bug with synchronization of a H.264 stream and audio. This bug was appear on some streams only. When there was this bug, In a log were printed many messages "B-pyramid level 2 detected","B-pyramid level 3 detected" e.t.c.
* Version 1.4.5
- Fixed blu-ray folders names
- Added chapters for Blu-ray muxing
* Version 1.4.3
- Added Blu-ray muxing mode
- Added demuxing mode
- Added Presentation Graphic stream support
- Added language descriptor support
* Version 1.2.9
- Fixed MKV parsing module. Some MKV files did not work (lace sice invalid detected for xiph laces, this cause access violation error)
* Version 1.2.8
- Fixed AC3 stream detection. Some AC3 streams were not recognized (broken in version 1.2.6 only)
* Version 1.2.6
- Added Dolby True HD support
- Added MPEG audio layer 1/2/3 support
- Fixed a bug in the M2TS parsing module. Sometimes TS frames were lost.
- Fixed a bug in the Matroska parsing module. Short NAL unit len codes for H.264 tracks did not work.
* Version 1.2.0:
- Added M2TS muxing
- Fixed stream type detection function (sometimes some audio/video streams were not found)
* Version 1.1.5
- The first release
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12. March 2008 @ 00:54 |
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ODIN, I was using EAC3GUI. Anyhow, all works now. I used the new TSMUXER RYU77 linked to, demuxed, and then remuxed with the AC3 stream I had earlier and copied a 4 gig sample to DVD then to PS3 (I know I could have used a smaller sample but i wanted to see if there was any sync problem towards end of movie)
I didnt even do the H264INFOALPHA step and it still worked..
ODIN are you streaming over wireless or wired? I only get one megabyte a second transfer rate through wi-fi and my signal strength is 82% I dont think I would be able to stream HD :(
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12. March 2008 @ 02:52 |
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Hmmmmmm...... nobody seems to want to respond to my first question.... So I will try it again. I have a LARGE HD-WMV >8gb. I want to be able to play it on my PS3. I have read this thread and can not find any reference to converting large WMVs. Short of breaking it up into a bunch of smaller files, is there any format that I can convert this too that will not result in loss of quality? Streaming with Tversity results in compression (must be encoding it on the fly?) and stuttering. The video looks and plays excellent on my PC. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers!
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12. March 2008 @ 03:31 |
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Originally posted by Trogdor11: Hmmmmmm...... nobody seems to want to respond to my first question.... So I will try it again. I have a LARGE HD-WMV >8gb. I want to be able to play it on my PS3. I have read this thread and can not find any reference to converting large WMVs. Short of breaking it up into a bunch of smaller files, is there any format that I can convert this too that will not result in loss of quality? Streaming with Tversity results in compression (must be encoding it on the fly?) and stuttering. The video looks and plays excellent on my PC. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers!
First you want to find out what kind of video stream is present in your wmv file. I'm pretty sure if you add the wmv to tsmuxer, it will give you the video stream and its specifics. If it is vc-1 (which is probably is) then you are pretty much fucked. I'm finding it incredibly difficult to get vc1 video to play on the ps3. I have tried encoding it to h264 but the size of the new file is ridiculously huge. Post what you find out about the video stream and then you can get more information on how to play the file.
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12. March 2008 @ 03:33 |
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Originally posted by heckubiss: ODIN, I was using EAC3GUI. Anyhow, all works now. I used the new TSMUXER RYU77 linked to, demuxed, and then remuxed with the AC3 stream I had earlier and copied a 4 gig sample to DVD then to PS3 (I know I could have used a smaller sample but i wanted to see if there was any sync problem towards end of movie)
I didnt even do the H264INFOALPHA step and it still worked..
Yes, I was wondering if Roman (tsMuxeR Author) had fixed that little problem. That's fantastic! Now we can leave out the h264 info step, making everything easier.
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12. March 2008 @ 03:41 |
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I have a question about encoding and I thought I better ask here because all the smart people seem to be sniffing around this place. I am thinking about encoding vc1 to h264 but the file size in the new file is huge. I see many downloadable h264 movies which are a manageable size and still 1080p quality. How do I go about making those kind of files starting with a vc1 which is 15gb to a manageable size (anything up to 25gb is not a problem for me)
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12. March 2008 @ 06:24 |
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Originally posted by kpuz: I have a question about encoding and I thought I better ask here because all the smart people seem to be sniffing around this place. I am thinking about encoding vc1 to h264 but the file size in the new file is huge. I see many downloadable h264 movies which are a manageable size and still 1080p quality. How do I go about making those kind of files starting with a vc1 which is 15gb to a manageable size (anything up to 25gb is not a problem for me)
Hello kpuz, I can certainly help you but if it's ok, I'd like to ask you a few questions first...
1) Is the original file WMV? If it is, how are you extracting the elementary streams? If it's not WMV, what is it?
2) What encoding method (full details & applications used) are you using to convert the VC-1 to h264?
3) Have you thought about aiming to use the original streams in a different container? I haven't had an opportunity to try but tsMuxeR states that it supports VC-1.
4) Why is 25GB not a problem for you? That would be a huge problem for me. My target is usually a DVD+DL (8GB). Do you have a Blu-ray burner?
Just out of curiousity, if 25GB is not a problem and you are saying the resultant h264 files are huge. I do need to ask... How big are they?
The final file size of any encode can manipulated by the end user to be any desired final file size. A few simple bitrate calculations and you can accurately predict what the output file size would be.
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12. March 2008 @ 07:36 |
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Originally posted by heckubiss: ODIN, I was using EAC3GUI. Anyhow, all works now. I used the new TSMUXER RYU77 linked to, demuxed, and then remuxed with the AC3 stream I had earlier and copied a 4 gig sample to DVD then to PS3 (I know I could have used a smaller sample but i wanted to see if there was any sync problem towards end of movie)
I didnt even do the H264INFOALPHA step and it still worked..
ODIN are you streaming over wireless or wired? I only get one megabyte a second transfer rate through wi-fi and my signal strength is 82% I dont think I would be able to stream HD :(
I'm wired (not wireless). Tecnically I don't stream, I copy my m2ts file through my network using Cyberlink and play the movie from my PS3's HDD. I can stream without a hitch though, my transfer rate is approx 4-7 mb/s and I am streaming from a quad core Vista, which makes a huge difference from my old XP.
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12. March 2008 @ 08:53 |
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Thanks Ryu77. Your thread rekindled my interest in getting a 1088 AVC/AC3 ts stream to play on a PS3 and stream to it too - previously I needed to burn it to blu-ray. TSMuxer was the last piece of the jigsaw. Thanks again.
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12. March 2008 @ 09:04 |
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How would I go about utilizing the add subtitle feature in the latest version of TSmuxer?
I tried converting a srt file to sup but TSmuxer could not recognize the stream.
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12. March 2008 @ 10:23 |
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Originally posted by kpuz: Originally posted by Trogdor11: Hmmmmmm...... nobody seems to want to respond to my first question.... So I will try it again. I have a LARGE HD-WMV >8gb. I want to be able to play it on my PS3. I have read this thread and can not find any reference to converting large WMVs. Short of breaking it up into a bunch of smaller files, is there any format that I can convert this too that will not result in loss of quality? Streaming with Tversity results in compression (must be encoding it on the fly?) and stuttering. The video looks and plays excellent on my PC. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers!
First you want to find out what kind of video stream is present in your wmv file. I'm pretty sure if you add the wmv to tsmuxer, it will give you the video stream and its specifics. If it is vc-1 (which is probably is) then you are pretty much fucked. I'm finding it incredibly difficult to get vc1 video to play on the ps3. I have tried encoding it to h264 but the size of the new file is ridiculously huge. Post what you find out about the video stream and then you can get more information on how to play the file.
Well, when I open the file in tsmuxer it says "Can't detect stream type". Apparently, it is WMV-HD VC1. Here is the scoop from the MSInfo Document that accompanied the file.
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Type.................: Movie
Platform.............: WMV-HD VC1
Part Size............: 50mb
Number of Parts......: 168
Compression Format...: RAR
File Validation......: 5% Pars
Video Format.........: WMV-HD
Video Bitrate........: 8368kbps
Resolution...........: 1920x820
Color................: 24 bit
FPS..................: 23.976
Source...............: 2 HDTV BROADCASTS
Original Format......: PAL 25fps H.264 Transport Stream
Audio................: 5.1 440kbps (sourced from retail DVD)
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12. March 2008 @ 10:51 |
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Originally posted by Trogdor11: Type.................: Movie
Platform.............: WMV-HD VC1
Part Size............: 50mb
Number of Parts......: 168
Compression Format...: RAR
File Validation......: 5% Pars
Video Format.........: WMV-HD
Video Bitrate........: 8368kbps
Resolution...........: 1920x820
Color................: 24 bit
FPS..................: 23.976
Source...............: 2 HDTV BROADCASTS
Original Format......: PAL 25fps H.264 Transport Stream
Audio................: 5.1 440kbps (sourced from retail DVD)
So it seems that it was captured from a HDTV broadcast, which I thought were all mpeg2 (they are in Australia)... Then it was re-encoded to h264, then again to VC-1... Now you want to re-encode it back to h264. I'm not liking the chances of keeping the quality high.
Trogdor11, what TV are you watching this on? Is the quality still high? When I say high, I mean comparing it to a Blu-ray source.
I am not sure about other Countries but the quality of DTV broadcasts here in Australia (for movies) are roughly about the same quality as regular DVD's. Sometimes you will see quality that is somewhere in the middle of DVD and Blu-ray but never is it any competition for an original Blu-ray disc.
Also, since it was converted from 25fps to 23.976fps, I'm wondering if they have done that conversion correctly. Is the frame rate perfectly smooth? Or does it look like it drops a frame every now and then?
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12. March 2008 @ 11:10 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77: Originally posted by Trogdor11: Type.................: Movie
Platform.............: WMV-HD VC1
Part Size............: 50mb
Number of Parts......: 168
Compression Format...: RAR
File Validation......: 5% Pars
Video Format.........: WMV-HD
Video Bitrate........: 8368kbps
Resolution...........: 1920x820
Color................: 24 bit
FPS..................: 23.976
Source...............: 2 HDTV BROADCASTS
Original Format......: PAL 25fps H.264 Transport Stream
Audio................: 5.1 440kbps (sourced from retail DVD)
So it seems that it was captured from a HDTV broadcast, which I thought were all mpeg2 (they are in Australia)... Then it was re-encoded to h264, then again to VC-1... Now you want to re-encode it back to h264. I'm not liking the chances of keeping the quality high.
Trogdor11, what TV are you watching this on? Is the quality still high? When I say high, I mean comparing it to a Blu-ray source.
I am not sure about other Countries but the quality of DTV broadcasts here in Australia (for movies) are roughly about the same quality as regular DVD's. Sometimes you will see quality that is somewhere in the middle of DVD and Blu-ray but never is it any competition for an original Blu-ray disc.
Also, since it was converted from 25fps to 23.976fps, I'm wondering if they have done that conversion correctly. Is the frame rate perfectly smooth? Or does it look like it drops a frame every now and then?
I am going to be watching this on a 46 inch Sony Bravia 1080P television playing on a PS3. I have been unable to view it on this setup, except as a Tversity stream from my PC, which is compressed by the software in order to stream... and it stutters a bit (likely because of my PC). Played back on the PC through VLC, it looks fantastic but a little jittery (once again, assuming my lowly P4 3ghzHT computer just isn't quite up to task). Apparently, this is THE best release of these particular films until they are officially released on Blu-Ray (If you know what films I am talking about, you will understand why I am not holding my breath for a hi-def release anytime in the near future). Here is some more info from the included document.
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The original German Premier HD broadcast had a stellar picture despite the deblocking and annoying video glitches plus it had over 20 major video glitches and a German opening crawl. The original British Sky Broadcasting version was perfect except slightly softer- it lacked the super fine detail that the Premier edition had but also had severe deblocking. The HBO/Showtime/Cinemax broadcasts are worth pooping on and not even contenders.
I suppose on many levels this release is pointless. First, for the reason that I re-encoded it to fit a DVD9 and that defeats the rules of high quality so you?ll get no arguments from me there and second there is a better version on the horizon I could have been more patient for. So consider this an appetizer for those with screen sizes 70" and below. I personally love the quality on this and have no doubt many will too.
What I did here was I took the high quality German Premier HD H.264 picture quality edition originally posted by "Born In A Skip" (THANK YOU!!!), edited in the English opening crawl and replaced all the individual frames that had video glitches with the also very good quality Sky broadcasting H.264 originally posted by 'BK (THANK YOU TOO!!!!), time adjusted to 23.976 fps for NTSC, used the retail DVD 5.1 AC3 track and slapped it together on a DVD9 sized universally compatible format for everyone to enjoy either on their PC or XBOX 360. You should play it on your 360 as the PC decoders MAY show some minor blocking in areas where the 360 does not.
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12. March 2008 @ 14:53 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Hello kpuz, I can certainly help you but if it's ok, I'd like to ask you a few questions first...
1) Is the original file WMV? If it is, how are you extracting the elementary streams? If it's not WMV, what is it?
2) What encoding method (full details & applications used) are you using to convert the VC-1 to h264?
3) Have you thought about aiming to use the original streams in a different container? I haven't had an opportunity to try but tsMuxeR states that it supports VC-1.
4) Why is 25GB not a problem for you? That would be a huge problem for me. My target is usually a DVD+DL (8GB). Do you have a Blu-ray burner?
Just out of curiousity, if 25GB is not a problem and you are saying the resultant h264 files are huge. I do need to ask... How big are they?
The final file size of any encode can manipulated by the end user to be any desired final file size. A few simple bitrate calculations and you can accurately predict what the output file size would be.
Thanks Ryu.
1. The original file was an evo and i demuxed it to get a vc1 video stream and a ddp audio stream. I have already encoded ddp into ac3 using eac3to.
2. First I made an filter graph which uses sonic hd demuxer and sonic video decoder 4.1 to give an output. I then make an avisynth script which loads this graph into megui, and I encoded it into an h264 stream packaged in an mkv. When I encode using baseline and normal profiles, it looks like crap but plays ok on the ps3. When I encode using high profile, it doesn't seem to work and the file size for only 5000 frames is close to 3 gigs.
3. I have tried using the vc1 in different containers, but it didnt' work with m2ts or avi. I haven't tried wmv yet, i'm in the process of making a wmv using the method that was posted earler in this thread.
4. I'm hoping to stream the whole thing to my ps3 hdd which i expect to expand to 750 gigs soon so 25 gigs wont be aproblem for me. The size for only 5000 frames is coming out to be 3 gigs. So for the whole movie which is roughly 201466 frames is going to be around 120gigs, and thats just absurd.
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