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bgw
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22. March 2008 @ 20:21 |
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I have created my M2ts file and want to play in on the PS3 directly from DVD. Do I just burn it with Nero as a data DVD? Do I have to create a video folder and put it in there?
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22. March 2008 @ 20:41 |
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Originally posted by bgw:
I have created my M2ts file and want to play in on the PS3 directly from DVD. Do I just burn it with Nero as a data DVD? Do I have to create a video folder and put it in there?
Use Nero Burning Rom. Within that program you need to make a DVD-ROM (UDF). In the UDF tab select "Manual Settings", and UDF 2.5... or else your movie will not play.
Also, you will be able to play the movie straight from the DVD, however I suggest copying the movie from the DVD to the PS3 hard drive. To do this, insert the DVD, wait for the "data dvd" icon in the video section of the PS3 XMB, press triangle and then copy. This will save wear-and-tear on the PS3's BD drive. When you're done your movie you can delete it from the PS3 and you'll still have the back up on DVD.
With M2TS there is no file size limitations, I just watched a 8.5 gig movie in full, one file straight from the HDD today.
Hope this helps.
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bgw
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22. March 2008 @ 22:44 |
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thanks Odin. I will take your advice and copy to hard drive.
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23. March 2008 @ 02:02 |
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Originally posted by heckubiss:
no. Still doesnt work
I figured I can split my 8GB file in two with a standard file splitter and if the second part is corrupt, I split that into 10MB pieces untill I find a piece that works (ie I found my keyframe) I then reconstruct the second part from the keyrame piece. of course I will miss a few seconds of video untill I find the key frame.
bUT this is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS way of doing it. I cant belive no one has created a file splitter for M2TS.
or does anyone know of a file splitter that can recreate starting from the 2nd part?
Ie i have a 4 gig file and want to split in two but I only want the 2nd part written to disk... this will help me quickly find the key frame
A new version of tsMuxeR has been released as posted above ^. This version now supports cutting and splitting. Please try that and post your results here.
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brettussd
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23. March 2008 @ 02:41 |
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Great app, very painless to use. Thanks for putting in the time and effort to help out so many people with this.
I was wondering whether you take feature requests for tsMuxeR from this thread? If so, is there any chance that you could add an option to specify a custom video aspect ratio for the output?
I downloaded some widescreen MKVs that were 720 x 576, with an AR of 16:9 / 1.78:1. However, when I re-muxed them to M2TS files, the original AR was lost and a new one must have been calculated from the video's dimensions (720 x 576 => 5:4 / 1.25:1). As you could imagine, this resulted in the video being squished horizontally.
I see that tsMuxeR has options to set the frame rate and level, which happen to be options available in H264info. Also given that the 16:9 AR was lost when I demuxed the H264 video streams, this tells me that the AR must be specified in the MKV container. Does this mean it would be easy to add more container-level options (such as AR) to tsMuxeR?
My current solution is to demux the H264 video streams from the MKVs and use H264info to set the AR to 16:9. While this works, I hope this step could be carried out by tsMuxeR one day.
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23. March 2008 @ 06:50 |
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Hello brettussd, I'm not the Author of this great application. Roman Vasilenko from Smart Labs ( www.smlabs.net ) is the Author.
In regards to your AR problem. I'm not sure if you're aware but the next gen of video formats found on Blu-ray discs don't use a 16:9 pixel aspect ratio anymore, they tend to use 1:1 (square pixel)... Maybe mpeg2 encoded discs still do but I tend to stay away from them as I feel that the quality is inferior when compared to h264 or VC-1 encodes.
You stated you have a 720 x 576 mkv file that has a AR of 16:9. Can I ask why you would want to use tsMuxeR as a container muxing choice. This application was more intended for HD video. Would you be able to tell me what format the elementary video and audio streams are. If you are unsure how to do this, use MediaInfoRaw and paste the info it gives you here...
MedioInfoRaw link: http://www.mediafire.com/?5mxjsmuvjir
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brettussd
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23. March 2008 @ 10:39 |
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Hi Ryu77, thanks for replying. I have indeed noticed that 1:1 pixel ARs are the norm in HD, which is probably why I ended up with square pixels when I muxed my video using tsMuxeR. However, for the source videos I was working with, this was not going to suffice.
The Matroska videos I was converting each had a single video stream (H264 AVC High@L5.1) and a single audio stream (MP3 44.1kHz 16bit stereo).
I was using tsMuxeR because I needed the videos to play on my PS3 using TVersity, and I didn't want to do a full stream conversion; they may not be HD, but I didn't want any loss of PQ. If you can tell me an easier solution than re-muxing into an M2TS container, I'm all ears!
I've successfully re-muxed other MKVs using mkv2vob, but mkv2vob didn't like the MP3 audio in these videos so I had to do the following: a) demux the streams; b) set the video profile level to 4.1 using H264info; c) convert the audio to AC3 48kHz; and d) mux the video and audio into an M2TS container. This resulted in the 1:1 pixel AR, and a squished picture. Once I set the AR to 16:9 on the elementary H264 video stream using H264info (prior to the final mux), the picture went back to widescreen and I was happy.
I noticed that tsMuxeR lets you set the video profile level and the frame rate; if it had an option to set the AR, then it would remove the need to use H264info at all. But this not a major pain, because I probably won't ever get videos like these again! :)
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23. March 2008 @ 12:30 |
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Hello again brettussd...
Ahhh yes, now I see why. It's because you have a AVC/h264 stream. You mentioned that it is a 5.1 level stream. You are fortunate that changing the metadata with h264info to 4.1 level enabled it to play. There are some streams that have the full feature set of the 5.1 level enabled making it incompatible on the PS3.
I do need to question though why the person who encoded this file decided to lower the sampling rate to 44100hz and use mp3 in conjunction with AVC??
Anyways... I know it's possible to put AVC along with mp3 into an avi container but from what I understand it isn't recommended. The avi standard doesn't allow for h264 streams, so to get one inside an avi requires some "hacking" of the avi container thus creating a non standard avi file.
You could use a tool called YAMB to create a mp4 file, which has options to adjust the AR ratio. After you load the file into YAMB, highlight the video and select "Properties" to adjust the aspect ratio.
Note: I am not sure if you still need to change the level of the h264 stream before using YAMB. You could try selecting "ND HDTV AVC" in the properties section under "Brand Name", or you could even try "ND CINEMA AVC". Nero's AVC HDTV profile uses a level of 4.0 with it's encodes, so I would assume that the metadata must include this information.
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23. March 2008 @ 13:56 |
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I've never personally had an mp3 audio stream in an mkv file but it seems like yamb supports mp3 audio. After changing the avc level of the video stream, try to mux them into an mp4 with yamb without rencoding the audio.
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23. March 2008 @ 19:31 |
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Originally posted by sukhvail:
I've never personally had an mp3 audio stream in an mkv file but it seems like yamb supports mp3 audio. After changing the avc level of the video stream, try to mux them into an mp4 with yamb without rencoding the audio.
I think you might be right that mp3 can indeed be muxed into mp4 along with AVC. That would mean that is the best option in that scenario.
I never really used mp3 and AVC together so I wasn't aware of that combination being allowed in a mp4 file. I adjusted my previous post accordingly. Thanks for pointing that out. :-)
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brettussd
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23. March 2008 @ 20:02 |
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Thanks for the advice guys. I doubt I'll ever get videos like these again, but if I do I'll go the MP4 route with YAMB. Sounds much simpler and quicker.
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Trogdor11
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25. March 2008 @ 02:05 |
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I guess everyone must have heard by now... but for those that haven't.... The 2.20 firmware will allow WMV and DivX that are larger than 2 gig to be played.
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25. March 2008 @ 03:43 |
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Originally posted by Trogdor11:
I guess everyone must have heard by now... but for those that haven't.... The 2.20 firmware will allow WMV and DivX that are larger than 2 gig to be played.
Yes, with that firmware upgrade DivX will now support soft subs on the PS3! That is great news! :-D
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Trogdor11
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25. March 2008 @ 09:59 |
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Since the latest firmware update (yay Sony!) I have been able to play those rather large WMV files on my PS3 as is. The only problem is, there is no audio when I play it on the PS3, audio is fine when I play it on my computer. Can anyone help me out here? Here are the specs of the file again.
Type.................: Movie
Platform.............: WMV-HD VC1
Part Size............: 50mb
Number of Parts......: 168
Compression Format...: RAR
File Validation......: 5% Pars
Video Format.........: WMV-HD
Video Bitrate........: 8368kbps
Resolution...........: 1920x820
Color................: 24 bit
FPS..................: 23.976
Source...............: 2 HDTV BROADCASTS
Original Format......: PAL 25fps H.264 Transport Stream
Audio................: 5.1 440kbps (sourced from retail DVD)
Any pointers would be muchly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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25. March 2008 @ 18:35 |
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As of yet the Ps3 doesnt support wma pro which is what most if not all of the high-quality rips are using.....maybe the next update will fix this ...
..I would rather play these off my external drive on the Ps3 than wear out my 360 !
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mixja666
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26. March 2008 @ 06:10 |
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Originally posted by Trogdor11:
Since the latest firmware update (yay Sony!) I have been able to play those rather large WMV files on my PS3 as is. The only problem is, there is no audio when I play it on the PS3, audio is fine when I play it on my computer. Can anyone help me out here? Here are the specs of the file again.
Type.................: Movie
Platform.............: WMV-HD VC1
Part Size............: 50mb
Number of Parts......: 168
Compression Format...: RAR
File Validation......: 5% Pars
Video Format.........: WMV-HD
Video Bitrate........: 8368kbps
Resolution...........: 1920x820
Color................: 24 bit
FPS..................: 23.976
Source...............: 2 HDTV BROADCASTS
Original Format......: PAL 25fps H.264 Transport Stream
Audio................: 5.1 440kbps (sourced from retail DVD)
Any pointers would be muchly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
PS3 doesn't support multichannel audio (enabled by WMA 10 Professional codec) in WMV unfortunately - you'll have to extract the audio stream using Windows Media Stream Editor and re-encode it to 2 channel using Windows Media Encoder (WMA 9.2 codec), then remux it back into the WMV using Stream Editor.
The real strange thing is that that PS3 will play back a WMA 5.1 audio file - it actually lists it as a PCM file type in XMB.
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Trogdor11
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26. March 2008 @ 08:53 |
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Originally posted by mixja666:
Originally posted by Trogdor11:
Since the latest firmware update (yay Sony!) I have been able to play those rather large WMV files on my PS3 as is. The only problem is, there is no audio when I play it on the PS3, audio is fine when I play it on my computer. Can anyone help me out here? Here are the specs of the file again.
Type.................: Movie
Platform.............: WMV-HD VC1
Part Size............: 50mb
Number of Parts......: 168
Compression Format...: RAR
File Validation......: 5% Pars
Video Format.........: WMV-HD
Video Bitrate........: 8368kbps
Resolution...........: 1920x820
Color................: 24 bit
FPS..................: 23.976
Source...............: 2 HDTV BROADCASTS
Original Format......: PAL 25fps H.264 Transport Stream
Audio................: 5.1 440kbps (sourced from retail DVD)
Any pointers would be muchly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
PS3 doesn't support multichannel audio (enabled by WMA 10 Professional codec) in WMV unfortunately - you'll have to extract the audio stream using Windows Media Stream Editor and re-encode it to 2 channel using Windows Media Encoder (WMA 9.2 codec), then remux it back into the WMV using Stream Editor.
The real strange thing is that that PS3 will play back a WMA 5.1 audio file - it actually lists it as a PCM file type in XMB.
Ok, thought I would give it a go as per your instructions. I opened Windows Media Stream Editor. Under 'Select source audiences' I choose 'Add Source', then navigate to the video file in question. It then tells me "The requested video codec is not installed on the system". I have tried updating codecs using the Codec Installation Package from the Microsoft website, still no go. If anybody could help me out with a detailed set of instructions for this operation, I would kiss their feet. Cheers!
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26. March 2008 @ 09:28 |
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Trogdor11, in the media file details you gave us it says that the audio is sourced from the retail DVD. That suggests to me that it is ac3 (Dolby Digital), but the bitrate says 440kbs which is not a valid bitrate for ac3. Could this info be slightly off and in actuality the audio is 448kbs?
Have you tried demuxing the streams from the WMV file and loading the raw elementary streams into tsMuxeR and creating a m2ts file?
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Trogdor11
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26. March 2008 @ 09:58 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Trogdor11, in the media file details you gave us it says that the audio is sourced from the retail DVD. That suggests to me that it is ac3 (Dolby Digital), but the bitrate says 440kbs which is not a valid bitrate for ac3. Could this info be slightly off and in actuality the audio is 448kbs?
Have you tried demuxing the streams from the WMV file and loading the raw elementary streams into tsMuxeR and creating a m2ts file?
I don't know about the audio. All I do know, is I am fairly frustrated with this whole process (no offense to you guys, everyone has been extremely helpful). They certainly do not make it easy. I have a feeling if I wait long enough, Sony will release another firmware update that will let me play these files as is. Right now, I do not see the point in pulling out my hair getting them to play on the PS3. As is, the video plays perfectly off a DVD9, or I can stream them flawlessly from my PC with TVersity..... but with no audio. So close.... so close.....
RYU: As far as demuxing the streams from the WMV file and loading the raw elementary streams into tsMuxeR and creating a m2ts file..... I have poured over this thread several times, have all the required software but can not really understand the process. I have tried fiddling around (trial and error)... I can't even get any of the programs to accept a WMV file as input. Alas, I am about ready to give up for now.
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26. March 2008 @ 10:40 |
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Trogdor11, I can help. Here's what you need to do to get playback with HD resolution and 5.1 suround sound on the PS3. I have a feeling I know what movies you are talking about, I have succesfully completed the process with two of the six movies so far.
This process will take about a day to complete but the end result is worth it... at least I feel so.
1. Either use PS3video9 or Nero Recode (with Nero, you can choose to omit the audio, this will leave room for a greater video bit-rate) and convert the wmv movie to mp4 using the "AVC-HDTV" profile (this will maintain the 1080p resolution).
2. I wasn't sure how to extract the audio from the original wmv file so I just used the audio from the retail DVD. First you need to rip the DVD to your computer, I used DVDFab Platinum for this. Just the main movie (without extras and menus), make sure just Dolby Digital 5.1 is checked when you rip. Then you need a program called DG-Index, with this program you can load all of the VOB files from the ripped DVD and extract the audio to it's own file. Once you "open" the VOB files choose "demux audio only".
3. Extract the raw h264 video from the converted mp4 file (from step 1), to do this use a program called YAMB.
4. Mux the h264 file and the Dolbly Digital-AC3 file (from step 2) using TSMuxer. You have a few options in TSMuxer, make sure the output file is m2ts (not .TS), as this is one of the native file types for the PS3.
With m2ts there is no file size limitation playing from the PS3 HDD and 5.1 surround sound will also play from the HDD. To stream or copy use TVersity (m2ts needs to be renamed to m2t with TVersity) or use Cyberlink Media Deluxe, this what I use to stream/copy. Use Nero Burning Rom and make a UDF-DVD 2.5 to make a hard copy to DL-DVD. The end result will decrease the video bitrate but not enough to actually notice.
Ryu77, if I have left anything out please feel free to add to this brief "how-to"
Hope this helps.
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26. March 2008 @ 10:58 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Ryu77, if I have left anything out please feel free to add to this brief "how-to"
Hope this helps.
All looks good to me! :-D Nice work.
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26. March 2008 @ 10:59 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Trogdor11, I can help. Here's what you need to do to get playback with HD resolution and 5.1 suround sound on the PS3. I have a feeling I know what movies you are talking about, I have succesfully completed the process with two of the six movies so far.
This process will take about a day to complete but the end result is worth it... at least I feel so.
1. Either use PS3video9 or Nero Recode (with Nero, you can choose to omit the audio, this will leave room for a greater video bit-rate) and convert the wmv movie to mp4 using the "AVC-HDTV" profile (this will maintain the 1080p resolution).
2. I wasn't sure how to extract the audio from the original wmv file so I just used the audio from the retail DVD. First you need to rip the DVD to your computer, I used DVDFab Platinum for this. Just the main movie (without extras and menus), make sure just Dolby Digital 5.1 is checked when you rip. Then you need a program called DG-Index, with this program you can load all of the VOB files from the ripped DVD and extract the audio to it's own file. Once you "open" the VOB files choose "demux audio only".
3. Extract the raw h264 video from the converted mp4 file (from step 1), to do this use a program called YAMB.
4. Mux the h264 file and the Dolbly Digital-AC3 file (from step 2) using TSMuxer. You have a few options in TSMuxer, make sure the output file is m2ts (not .TS), as this is one of the native file types for the PS3.
With m2ts there is no file size limitation playing from the PS3 HDD and 5.1 surround sound will also play from the HDD. To stream or copy use TVersity (m2ts needs to be renamed to m2t with TVersity) or use Cyberlink Media Deluxe, this what I use to stream/copy. Use Nero Burning Rom and make a UDF-DVD 2.5 to make a hard copy to DL-DVD. The end result will decrease the video bitrate but not enough to actually notice.
Ryu77, if I have left anything out please feel free to add to this brief "how-to"
Hope this helps.
I appreciate all the help guys.... but I personally do not feel that it is worth all the hassle. I am going to just hope Sony updates their firmware again allowing me to play these with audio 'as is', or wait until Mr. Lucas gets off his arse and releases these films on Blu-Ray. Thanks again for trying, but I just don't have the time or patience to go through all the steps required. Cheers!
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26. March 2008 @ 13:23 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by Trogdor11:
I guess everyone must have heard by now... but for those that haven't.... The 2.20 firmware will allow WMV and DivX that are larger than 2 gig to be played.
Yes, with that firmware upgrade DivX will now support soft subs on the PS3! That is great news! :-D
Good news Ryu. Any info on format of soft subs? Also soft subs are only for DivX right?
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26. March 2008 @ 19:55 |
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Originally posted by moddep:
Good news Ryu. Any info on format of soft subs? Also soft subs are only for DivX right?
Oh, you've been away for too long. tsMuxeR now supports switchable subtitles (for 1080p) only via using SUPread to prepare them. Roman is going to implement srt input very soon into tsMuxeR.
There is another method I completed for creating a 720p AVCHD disc with switchable subs using Sonic Scenarist BD v4.20, but it's a little complicated so I didn't want to post the steps here. I think it's best to wait a little longer for tsMuxeR to implement srt subtitle input.
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