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19. April 2008 @ 02:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also, could you let me know what I am looking for under b_pyramid, B_frames, etc for future reference? If it's not too complicated which i am thinking it will be.
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19. April 2008 @ 04:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by badbenson:
Ryu77

Thanks for all your help man, I am amazed at what you know about video files haha. Here is the MediaInfoRaw.exe message about the MKV file I am trying to convert. I assume you want it for the original and not the newly created m2ts file but here is for the MKV file:

BTW I do believe that this was originally a Red DVD not a Blu Ray

Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=16 / deblock=1:-2:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / fpel_cmp=sad / subme=7 / me-prepass=0 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / mbaff=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=crf / crf=18.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30


Thanks again Ryu
That video stream is not compatible with the PS3, your only option is to re-encode the video. Also, I would suggest only keeping the 5.1 channel AC3 sound and dumping the stereo AAC track.

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by badbenson:
Ryu77

Thanks for all your help man, I am amazed at what you know about video files haha. Here is the MediaInfoRaw.exe message about the MKV file I am trying to convert. I assume you want it for the original and not the newly created m2ts file but here is for the MKV file:

BTW I do believe that this was originally a Red DVD not a Blu Ray

Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=16 / deblock=1:-2:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / fpel_cmp=sad / subme=7 / me-prepass=0 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / mbaff=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=crf / crf=18.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30


Thanks again Ryu
That video stream is not compatible with the PS3, your only option is to re-encode the video. Also, I would suggest only keeping the 5.1 channel AC3 sound and dumping the stereo AAC track.
Thank you, that is disappointing to hear, does anyone know of the best way to go about re-encoding this bad boy?
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20. April 2008 @ 16:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does TsMuxer 1.7.6(b) allow us to mux more than one audio stream into an M2TS container, which is then switchable on the PS3?
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20. April 2008 @ 17:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did anyone try the new PS3 2.30 update. It claims to support DTS now but when I converted the MKV file to M2TS with TSMUXER there is no sound
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Originally posted by heckubiss:
Did anyone try the new PS3 2.30 update. It claims to support DTS now but when I converted the MKV file to M2TS with TSMUXER there is no sound
PS3 supported DTS from day 1, it's the m2ts container where the compatibility issue is.

The new DTS support in the 2.30 update is DTS_HD Master Audio, a whopping 24mb/s bitrate!

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21. April 2008 @ 02:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Some small issues I've found, although just setting the level in h264info to 4.1 does work, there are two other settings I always use in h264info:

- Frame Rate - I always set this to 23.976 (or whatever is appropriate for your source material) - some material I find have jerky playback without this set.

- Set PPS - I have found that if you DON'T set this, seeking on the PS3 is SLOW - seeking does work but it is painfully slow, especially resuming play after a FF/REW operation. If you set PPS, this seems to make seeking much faster

All of the above settings are done within h264info - NOT TSMuxer, which seems to break seeking altogether if you try and set PPS, etc from TSMuxer.
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21. April 2008 @ 07:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mixja666:
Some small issues I've found, although just setting the level in h264info to 4.1 does work, there are two other settings I always use in h264info:

- Frame Rate - I always set this to 23.976 (or whatever is appropriate for your source material) - some material I find have jerky playback without this set.

- Set PPS - I have found that if you DON'T set this, seeking on the PS3 is SLOW - seeking does work but it is painfully slow, especially resuming play after a FF/REW operation. If you set PPS, this seems to make seeking much faster

All of the above settings are done within h264info - NOT TSMuxer, which seems to break seeking altogether if you try and set PPS, etc from TSMuxer.
Actually I have found the reverse with tsMuxeR. If I disable "Continually insert SPS/PPS" then seeking works perfectly.

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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21. April 2008 @ 07:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ryu77:
Actually I have found the reverse with tsMuxeR. If I disable "Continually insert SPS/PPS" then seeking works perfectly.
If I disable "Continually insert SPS/PPS" in TsMuxer without setting PPS in h264info, then I still get slow seeking - the symptoms are when you FF at any speed, initially it will seek forward, then pause, forward, then pause, and then continuously forward for a while until it repeats the pause, forward, pause cycle. When you press play, it takes 15-20s to resume playing. Resuming is worse from REWIND to PLAY - maybe 30s.

The key for me is setting PPS in h264info, this resolves the seeking issues. Admittedly I've only tested this on a couple of remuxed movies so after a few more remuxes I'll post an update...
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21. April 2008 @ 07:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since the update in tsMuxeR was released where I can change the AVC level there I have totally left out the h264info step, since then I have never come across a seeking problem in that mixja666 is describing.

Are you FF/RW from a DVD, or a stream from your PC, or is the movie on the PS3 HDD?

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mixja666
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21. April 2008 @ 07:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by odin24:
Since the update in tsMuxeR was released where I can change the AVC level there I have totally left out the h264info step, since then I have never come across a seeking problem in that mixja666 is describing.

Are you FF/RW from a DVD, or a stream from your PC, or is the movie on the PS3 HDD?
Seeking problems are with M2TS files either streamed from PC or directly from PS3 HDD (copied via UPnP to HDD).
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21. April 2008 @ 08:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have some MKV files that i want to stream to my PS3 but i have a few questions. First my tv is only 720p rez and the mkv files are 1080p, will the PS3 still be able to downgrade the resolution on them to play on the TV? Second, my computer is getting older and it has problems playing the 1080p files. Could you give me some info on what kinda specs i will need to upgrade the computer to when Uncle Sam gives me my "stimulus" check? What would be a good processor speed? duel core? video card etc...? Thanks a lot guys.
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21. April 2008 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can I put subtitles in the m2ts container and get the ps3 to play them? In what type of format should the subtitle be? Recommended software to convert sub to that format?

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21. April 2008 @ 21:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by heckubiss:
Did anyone try the new PS3 2.30 update. It claims to support DTS now but when I converted the MKV file to M2TS with TSMUXER there is no sound
PS3 supported DTS from day 1, it's the m2ts container where the compatibility issue is.

The new DTS support in the 2.30 update is DTS_HD Master Audio, a whopping 24mb/s bitrate!
so the PS3 only supports DTS_HD master audio but not regular DTS!? I see most movies are regular DTS ie I have one that is 1535Kbps 48Khz 6 channels, I rarely see any movies with DTS_HD anyway. this sucks.. kinda usless for 99% of all movies. I dont see why sony just doesnt support what everyone already has..
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21. April 2008 @ 21:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Ryu77

I'm using eac3to for converting eac3 to ac3. I now have the Nero 7 installed with the Multichannel Plug in. I start converting the e-ac3 file with eac3to; I immediatley see the below in command prompt/DOS with "-" populating accross the DOS screen underneath "Disabling DRC..."; this lasts for about 60 seconds, then stops and no output file.

What am I missing?

eac3to v2.39
command line: "D:\Downloads\HD RIP utinlities\EAC3toGUI\eac3to.exe" "G:\HDDVD\HD DVD\moviename_D1_NA\Demuxed\FEATURE_1_MERGED.DDp.stream.00.ddp" "G:\HDDVD\HD DVD\moviename_D1_NA\Demuxed\FEATURE_1_MERGED.DDp.stream.00.ac3"-640 -nero

E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 2:23:27, 1536kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Removing dialog normalization...
Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
Disabling DRC for Nero (E-)AC3 decoding...
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21. April 2008 @ 22:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by heckubiss:
Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by heckubiss:
Did anyone try the new PS3 2.30 update. It claims to support DTS now but when I converted the MKV file to M2TS with TSMUXER there is no sound
PS3 supported DTS from day 1, it's the m2ts container where the compatibility issue is.

The new DTS support in the 2.30 update is DTS_HD Master Audio, a whopping 24mb/s bitrate!
so the PS3 only supports DTS_HD master audio but not regular DTS!? I see most movies are regular DTS ie I have one that is 1535Kbps 48Khz 6 channels, I rarely see any movies with DTS_HD anyway. this sucks.. kinda usless for 99% of all movies. I dont see why sony just doesnt support what everyone already has..
Odin said that the PS3 has supported DTS audio from day 1... So that means it does support regular DTS, and now with firmware v2.30 it supports DTS HD Master Audio & High Resolution audio.

The problem you are facing is likely because you are trying to play DTS audio from a raw M2TS media file. Unfortunately it's not going to happen this way. For a DTS audio track to play, you will need to author in Blu-ray structure (or regular DVD format).

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 21. April 2008 @ 22:58

young1298
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22. April 2008 @ 09:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Ryu and Ordin24

Was going on guys Ive been good with the software ive been using. Ive look at 720p movies on my ps3 and said forget about 1080p to much trouble. But i do have 1 question is there a software i can use so i can

Rewind
Fastfoward
Pause
And Resume a movie without haing to start the whole movie over
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I have been following this thread and there is a lot of good information. My question is that I understand that a MKV file with DTS audio can't be played on the PS3. So you must convert the file to a M2ts(M2T) file to play and chane te audio to AC3. I decided to use mkv2vob to convert the audio and notice that their is a M2TS option along with VOB, AVI, and Mpeg. Why can you use this program to create the M@TS file to stream to the PS3?

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Originally posted by omega379:
I have been following this thread and there is a lot of good information. My question is that I understand that a MKV file with DTS audio can't be played on the PS3. So you must convert the file to a M2ts(M2T) file to play and chane te audio to AC3. I decided to use mkv2vob to convert the audio and notice that their is a M2TS option along with VOB, AVI, and Mpeg. Why can't you use this program to create the M@TS file to stream to the PS3?


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Would any of the programs use for converting video use mencoder.exe that is driving my cpu up to 95%?

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22. April 2008 @ 18:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omega379:
I have been following this thread and there is a lot of good information. My question is that I understand that a MKV file with DTS audio can't be played on the PS3. So you must convert the file to a M2ts(M2T) file to play and chane te audio to AC3. I decided to use mkv2vob to convert the audio and notice that their is a M2TS option along with VOB, AVI, and Mpeg. Why can you use this program to create the M@TS file to stream to the PS3?
If you really have been following this thread then you would already know the answers.

DTS audio is playable on the PS3. You will need to export Blu-ray structure from tsMuxeR instead of M2TS.

You can use mkv2vob if you wish. However those formats that it says that it outputs is very misleading. All mkv2vob does is change the extension. The container format used by mkv2vob now is always M2TS. Earlier versions of this program used a MPEG type container (VOB).

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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Here is my input and output for a file that has no video.

General #0
Complete name : K:\Movie Software\Work file\movie
Format : Matroska
File size : 7.95 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 34mn
Bit rate : 12.1 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-03-31 13:51:05
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Cover : Yes / Yes / Yes

Video #0
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile : High@L5.1
Codec settings, CABAC : Yes
PlayTime : 1h 34mn
Bit rate : 10.0 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 10.6 Mbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 822 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Title : 1920x822 @ 10558 Kbps
Writing library : x264 - core 58 r786M aa5391a
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / me-prepass=1 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=6,4 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=10558 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=1.00 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.6:16.0
Language : English

Audio #0
Codec : DTS
PlayTime : 1h 34mn
Bit rate : 1536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Title : DTS Core 5.1 @ 1.5 Mbps
Language : English

General #0
ID : 1
Complete name : K:\Movie Software\Work file\Movie
Format : BluRay Video
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 7.77 GiB
PlayTime : 32ms

Video #0
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
MenuID : 1 (0x1)
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG-4 AVC
Language : English

Audio #0
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
MenuID : 1 (0x1)
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 32ms
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz



omega379
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Omega379,
In regards to your no video issue. You will need to recode, lately 1080p files have been causing playback issues... not sure why though. I have done this and it works.

Either use Nero recode or Megui with AVIsynth. Don't forget, with m2ts DTS audio is incompatible, you will need to convert to AC3 using eac3to with eac3toGUI.
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Can someone post "step by step" instructions on how to backup BR movie so it plays on PS3?

Here are steps I have been taking (a few, not enough):

1. Used AnyDVDHD to extract BR files...
2. Used Nero 8 to burn contents, as is from root folder.

Have also used the following:

1. Created ISO from Linux
2. Copied over external Drive then to workstation
2. Used Nero 8 to burn ISO

One more:

1. Just used Nero 8 BlueRay Disc Copy feature to copy BR movie.

Been reading on this thread that tsmuxergui and few other apps are required, I just don't know where to begin???

I have a Sony DL BR 4x Burner and PS3 with 320GB drive (few external 500gb drives).

Thanks in advance!
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Ok... I've just created an AVCHD disc with the above method and all works fine!

If anyone has any questions, ask away

Hi i have created a avchd disc but when i play it in my ps3 i hace no picture but i have sound please help
 
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