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21. September 2008 @ 23:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KajNrig:
Re-encoding is always going to reduce the filesize and quality of the original video. It's just one of those unfortunate circumstances. You'd think that simply adding borders wouldn't do anything, but the thing is that EVERYTHING has to be drawn again.

And I'm not sure which profile is Ryu's. It could be something like "Ryu77" or "Ryu" or something, but I can't be sure. Sorry.
You can set the bitrate calculator in MeGUI to match the original source file size, the result is literally zero quality loss.

Also, Ryu77's profile is not actuall an encoder, it's just a profile... like all of the rest, just geared more towards Blu-ray compatiblility, rather than mkv (PC) compatibility. It might be linked in this thread or it can most likely be found in this one.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346



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KajNrig
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22. September 2008 @ 01:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wait a tick... so this whole time, I've been crapping the quality of my videos without even knowing it? :( That's depressing.
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22. September 2008 @ 01:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there a way to know the original h264 bitrate, without using the calculator? All that media player classic gives me is Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x688 23.98fps [Video].


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22. September 2008 @ 02:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by zee5:
Is there a way to know the original h264 bitrate, without using the calculator? All that media player classic gives me is Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x688 23.98fps [Video].
I'm sure there is software that tells you the bitrate as you movie is playing (on the PC), but it is variable. I'd rather asign a file size rather than a bitrate, that way yo know exactly what you are going to get, as opposed to grabbing a high (or a low) point and wasting a good encode. Also, when you assign a file size in MeGUI it tells you the approximate bitrate.

Originally posted by KajNrig:
Wait a tick... so this whole time, I've been crapping the quality of my videos without even knowing it? :( That's depressing.
LOL. Once you have everything set up, go to tools, bitrate calculator, then assign either the bitrate or file size. What size do you usually recode to? DVD5, DVD9, BD25???


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Yeah I got the same bitrate as the original by giving the exact time and file size in the bitrate calculator.


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22. September 2008 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by odin24:
LOL. Once you have everything set up, go to tools, bitrate calculator, then assign either the bitrate or file size. What size do you usually recode to? DVD5, DVD9, BD25???
None. If I'd known about it, I'd have just re-encoded to the original filesize. Since I'm just plopping it down onto the PS3's HDD, I didn't care about making it fit onto a DVD or BD or anything. (That plus the fact that the videos are like 300 MB apiece, so... yeah. Not much point.)

But thanks for the tip. I'm good on that now. (But now I've got to go through every episode again... all twenty-something of 'em. That's gonna suck.)
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25. September 2008 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, guys!

This is my first time posting on this forum and it's a little different from the kinds of forums I frequently post on, so bear with my ignorance.

I have been encoding DVDs for many years- not just using Shrink-type programs, but using CinemaCraft, etc., so I am vaguely familiar with some of these processes, but I am new to a lot of it and, especially, with high-definition files. And my point is...?

Well, I've followed both of the threads listed in Ryu77's signature very closely and have completed my first project- putting an episode of everyone's favorite sci-fi saga onto a DVD-9 as a Blu-ray disc. What is significant about this is not that it's some unprecedented accomplishment, but that I documented my steps in reasonable detail. Here's what I've done:

I put together all of the software from the start of the conversion thread, plus a couple of other pieces I had, into a small software package. Then, I created a sort of "guide manual" in PDF format and threw it in, too. This guide only covers converting HD streams to DVD-sized files compatible with a stand-alone Blu-ray player, such as a Sony PS3, which is my specific interest. Still, I know that many readers of this thread are interested in the same thing, so I thought I'd share it with you guys.

Here's my goal at the moment: Can some of you guys with more experience, such as Ryu77, Odin24, or others, please download my guide and glance over it for glaring errors? I'd really hate to share bad information and throw these threads back. My little software package is in two pieces to facilitate the size limit for free hosting at MediaFire. (Link at bottom of this post.) Since many of you already have the software you need, just download the first segment- the manual is in there.

Again, please critique the instructions. I don't want bad information getting out there. I know it's not all bad, as my project was successful, but some of the information didn't apply to me and I put it in there based upon what I'd read at these threads.

Thanks for all your help and time, guys! Cheers!

Blu-ray Conversion Tool Kit
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25. September 2008 @ 15:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi i have mkv movie the profile is : High@ 3.1 resolution 1280x528 frame: 23.976 and ac3 for audio

i have questions

first with tsMuxer to create bluray disk do i need to make it 4.1 ? or keep it on 3.1?

2- to recode by MeGUI/avisynth, what i must write in avisynth script? i want crop the black borders ( without borders i want it full movie screen with srt subtittle) and make it 720

i made one script by avisynth but i dont know if its right or not

# Set DAR in encoder to 16 : 9. The following line is for automatic signalling
global MeGUI_darx = 16
global MeGUI_dary = 9
DirectShowSource("movie.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
#deinterlace
#crop
LanczosResize(1280,720) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise

i choose 16:9 because my tv is widescreen

do i miss somthing or make wrong?

only i need is resize to from 1280x528 to 1280x720 without adding black borders

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25. September 2008 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Q8Love:

DirectShowSource("movie.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
#deinterlace
#crop
LanczosResize(1280,720) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise

only i need is resize to from 1280x528 to 1280x720 without adding black borders
If I'm not mistaken, you need to add borders to prevent distortion. For the figures you provided, you would need a border of 96 rows each, top and bottom. Your script would be more like:

DirectShowSource("movie.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false
AddBorders(0,96,0,96)
#deinterlace
#crop
LanczosResize(1280,720) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise

The addition is highlighted in red. Hope this helps... :)
Q8Love
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25. September 2008 @ 20:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Str8Pryd:
Originally posted by Q8Love:

DirectShowSource("movie.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
#deinterlace
#crop
LanczosResize(1280,720) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise

only i need is resize to from 1280x528 to 1280x720 without adding black borders
If I'm not mistaken, you need to add borders to prevent distortion. For the figures you provided, you would need a border of 96 rows each, top and bottom. Your script would be more like:

DirectShowSource("movie.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false
AddBorders(0,96,0,96)
#deinterlace
#crop
LanczosResize(1280,720) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise

The addition is highlighted in red. Hope this helps... :)
i know about the commend but i want to remove it to see the movie in full screen

anyway thanks for answer

any suggest? i hope anyone help especailly Odin24
KajNrig
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25. September 2008 @ 22:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not sure if you even have to use the DARs. Any reason why you're writing that in?

Anyway, what you've got seems to be good. The only thing I'd say is that you could just leave the fps at 23.976.

DirectShowSource("movie.mkv",fps=23.976,audio=false)
LanczosResize(1280,720)

Those two by themselves should do you fine.

But what you'll get is a stretched image. I'm guessing your video aspect ratio is in what I call that "theater widescreen" (there's a name for it, I just don't know), so what's going to happen is that the image is going to be stretched vertically.

If that's fine with you, though, then cool beans. Good luck with that.

To answer your first question, you shouldn't have to change to 4.1. The only time you have to change levels is when you've got a 5.1 video.

Which begs the question again: What IS the deal with the levels? What do they mean/dictate?
Q8Love
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25. September 2008 @ 23:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KajNrig:
I'm not sure if you even have to use the DARs. Any reason why you're writing that in?

Anyway, what you've got seems to be good. The only thing I'd say is that you could just leave the fps at 23.976.

DirectShowSource("movie.mkv",fps=23.976,audio=false)
LanczosResize(1280,720)

Those two by themselves should do you fine.

But what you'll get is a stretched image. I'm guessing your video

aspect ratio is in what I call that "theater widescreen" (there's a name for it, I just don't know), so what's going to happen is that the image is going to be stretched vertically.

If that's fine with you, though, then cool beans. Good luck with that.

To answer your first question, you shouldn't have to change to 4.1. The only time you have to change levels is when you've got a 5.1 video.

Which begs the question again: What IS the deal with the levels? What do they mean/dictate?
im made the script by avisynth, didnt write anything
the DARs are appear when i choose the aspect ratio to 16:9

but if i dont add borders and do all that ill loss quality? ;\

anyway thanks for ur help
KajNrig
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25. September 2008 @ 23:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Q8Love:
im made the script by avisynth, didnt write anything
the DARs are appear when i choose the aspect ratio to 16:9

but if i dont add borders and do all that ill loss quality? ;\

anyway thanks for ur help
No prob. I thought you just used Wordpad or something, but the program's fine, too. Don't worry 'bout it.

And depending on what you use to encode the video, you'll lose very little quality. Just check up near the top of this page and the page before. I just learned about zero quality loss, too. Pity me.

Anyways, the only thing I'm curious about is whether or not you want your video to be stretched or not. The "quality" of it won't (technically) change if you use the right encoder profile, but the picture will just be stretched vertically, like I said before.

By putting in borders, you'll just keep the video aspect ratio the same, that's all.
Q8Love
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26. September 2008 @ 01:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KajNrig:
Originally posted by Q8Love:
im made the script by avisynth, didnt write anything
the DARs are appear when i choose the aspect ratio to 16:9

but if i dont add borders and do all that ill loss quality? ;\

anyway thanks for ur help
No prob. I thought you just used Wordpad or something, but the program's fine, too. Don't worry 'bout it.

And depending on what you use to encode the video, you'll lose very little quality. Just check up near the top of this page and the page before. I just learned about zero quality loss, too. Pity me.

Anyways, the only thing I'm curious about is whether or not you want your video to be stretched or not. The "quality" of it won't (technically) change if you use the right encoder profile, but the picture will just be stretched vertically, like I said before.

By putting in borders, you'll just keep the video aspect ratio the same, that's all.
ill try this script:

# Set DAR in encoder to 16 : 9. The following line is for automatic signalling
global MeGUI_darx = 16
global MeGUI_dary = 9
DirectShowSource("movie.mkv",fps=23.976,audio=false)
#deinterlace
crop( 0, 0, 0, 0)
LanczosResize(1280,720)
#denoise

what do suggest KajNrig?

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. September 2008 @ 01:18

KajNrig
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26. September 2008 @ 09:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Everything's good, but you don't need the

crop(0,0,0,0)

line. That's not going to crop anything, so... yeah. Besides that, though, it seems good. Open up the script in MeGUI and look at the preview. If it looks okay to you, then you're good to go.
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26. September 2008 @ 10:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Str8Pryd:

Well, I've followed both of the threads listed in Ryu77's signature very closely

I put together all of the software from the start of the conversion thread, plus a couple of other pieces I had, into a small software package. Then, I created a sort of "guide manual" in PDF format and threw it in, too. This guide only covers converting HD streams to DVD-sized files compatible with a stand-alone Blu-ray player, such as a Sony PS3, which is my specific interest. Still, I know that many readers of this thread are interested in the same thing, so I thought I'd share it with you guys.

Here's my goal at the moment: Can some of you guys with more experience, such as Ryu77, Odin24, or others, please download my guide and glance over it for glaring errors? I'd really hate to share bad information and throw these threads back. My little software package is in two pieces to facilitate the size limit for free hosting at MediaFire. (Link at bottom of this post.) Since many of you already have the software you need, just download the first segment- the manual is in there.

Again, please critique the instructions. I don't want bad information getting out there. I know it's not all bad, as my project was successful, but some of the information didn't apply to me and I put it in there based upon what I'd read at these threads.

Thanks for all your help and time, guys! Cheers!

Blu-ray Conversion Tool Kit

I did download the guide and went through it.
It looks quite good and it is definitely something a lot of people will enjoy using. Ryu77 and Odin do give all the info needed in this (an the other) thread, but it is all over the place.
A guide like the one you are working on is the max.
I do not know how 'correct' the information is, but I am sure that people here will be able to find out.
Why don't you create a new thread about this guide with the objective of collecting corrections (if any) and extentions and making the guide as complete as possible?
You could than post the updates, corrections, extentions etc. in new versions of the guide. Your guide will become better and better. Maybe even turn into a 'Bluray disc creation for Dummies' :-)
Gardus
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27. September 2008 @ 11:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi everyone...i'm new on this forum. I hope you can help me with a little problem.

I usually use TsMuxer to make mkv playable on the ps3 (.m2t) thru TVersity.

Today i just got the last (second) "little city" episode, but tsmuxer say "can't detect stream type in file ****.ac3"

I tried to demux it wit MKVextractGUI, same problem.
Same passing the ac3 file through delaycut.

Should i just take the SD version...
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27. September 2008 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Gardus:
Hi everyone...i'm new on this forum. I hope you can help me with a little problem.

I usually use TsMuxer to make mkv playable on the ps3 (.m2t) thru TVersity.

Today i just got the last (second) "little city" episode, but tsmuxer say "can't detect stream type in file ****.ac3"

I tried to demux it wit MKVextractGUI, same problem.
Same passing the ac3 file through delaycut.

Should i just take the SD version...
I think mkv2vob will fix this problem. I have never used it so good luck.


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28. September 2008 @ 03:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Any software like this for Mac? I need this :(
Q8Love
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29. September 2008 @ 22:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KajNrig:
Everything's good, but you don't need the

crop(0,0,0,0)

line. That's not going to crop anything, so... yeah. Besides that, though, it seems good. Open up the script in MeGUI and look at the preview. If it looks okay to you, then you're good to go.

yesssssssssssssssssssssss

Finaly the movie work perfectly with full mode screen

thanks dear for help ;>
Gardus
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30. September 2008 @ 09:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by odin24:

I think mkv2vob will fix this problem. I have never used it so good luck.
Nope...I just got the 350mb version, no big deal. Thanks anyway!
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i got a mkv file with ac3 5.1 audio. i demux it with tsmuxer and transcode it into aac 2.1 128kb vbr using belight. then i tired to remux it with tsmuxer but it says "can't detect stream type" when i add in the aac file. what's wrong? i am going to try again with cbr. thank you.

here are my belight settings:

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1. October 2008 @ 02:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mluu510:
i got a mkv file with ac3 5.1 audio. i demux it with tsmuxer and transcode it into aac 2.1 128kb vbr using belight. then i tired to remux it with tsmuxer but it says "can't detect stream type" when i add in the aac file. what's wrong? i am going to try again with cbr. thank you.

here are my belight settings:


Why not keep the AC3 file, much better quality. However if you must have AAC, use a program called YAMB and remux to MP4, which will still be playable on the PS3.

AAC is not in the Blu-ray spec, so tsMuxeR is pretty picky on which types of AAC it takes, I haven't come across a AAC file it would take yet.


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1. October 2008 @ 03:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, i have been fiddling around with belight to convert a ac3 to aac that's compatible with m2ts with no success. can m2ts even contain aac that will play on ps3? i should have asked this question first. stupid me.
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1. October 2008 @ 03:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mluu510:
ok, i have been fiddling around with belight to convert a ac3 to aac that's compatible with m2ts with no success. can m2ts even contain aac that will play on ps3? i should have asked this question first. stupid me.
See my post above.


 
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